Ipswich v Belle Vue 14/08

[Aries]

https://ipswichwitches.co/raceday-guide-belle-vue-h-3/
 

Another second half featuring Ipswich academy vs Kent Eagles. 

[TTT]

Ipswich by 20+

Kurtz won't take any risks now as he's got a serious chance of becoming WC this year, Bewley will score a few and Lidsey will chip in if he makes a Gate.

Don't expect anything from Blodorn, Cook, Zischke or Mulford.

[ouch]

Very much a gating contest and one our bottom end have been successful at in the not too distant past.

Norick has fairly recently posted scores of Paid 9 & 2 Paid 8’s but he was making the all important start, so crucial at Foxhall.

Similarly Jake 2 Paid 6’s and Zach Paid 13 & Paid 10, both riders wearing their gating gloves on those occasions. 

I’m not overly optimistic of an Aces win nor an exciting night’s actions as the gate’n’go leagues second best gaters take on the perennial worst of the bunch. 

All those “it’s only 15 minutes of entertainment” will be having kittens as this one will be down to less than 2 minutes. 

[PhilTheAce]

65-25

 

end the season

[Gavan]

1 hour ago, ouch said:

Very much a gating contest and one our bottom end have been successful at in the not too distant past.

Norick has fairly recently posted scores of Paid 9 & 2 Paid 8’s but he was making the all important start, so crucial at Foxhall.

Similarly Jake 2 Paid 6’s and Zach Paid 13 & Paid 10, both riders wearing their gating gloves on those occasions. 

I’m not overly optimistic of an Aces win nor an exciting night’s actions as the gate’n’go leagues second best gaters take on the perennial worst of the bunch. 

All those “it’s only 15 minutes of entertainment” will be having kittens as this one will be down to less than 2 minutes. 

Last time at foxhall

 Heat 1 …. Doyle passed Kurtz 

Heat 6….King passed Bewley 

Heat 8…. Mulford gated twice both times passed by King 

Heat 14…. Thompson and Cook good battle 

Heat 15…. King passed Kurtz 

So yes our track isn’t as good as yours but you still get some good overtaking and close races 

Though it does seem that when your team do gate at Foxhall the home team have the skill set to get past.

Last night proved it’s not just the technical tracks that your bottom 4 struggle with it’s any track 

 

 

 

 

[foreverblue]

17 minutes ago, Gavan said:

Last time at foxhall

 Heat 1 …. Doyle passed Kurtz 

Heat 6….King passed Bewley 

Heat 8…. Mulford gated twice both times passed by King 

Heat 14…. Thompson and Cook good battle 

Heat 15…. King passed Kurtz 

So yes our track isn’t as good as yours but you still get some good overtaking and close races 

Though it does seem that when your team do gate at Foxhall the home team have the skill set to get past.

Last night proved it’s not just the technical tracks that your bottom 4 struggle with it’s any track 

 

 

 

 

Dont forget they dont change their team mid season and apparently this gives them some sort of solace when they lose heavily. I would prefer my club to change if they can to improve the team.

 

[bellevueace]

This will be a heavy defeat, nothing to do with the track more to do with our engine room and reserves not being able to support the top two away from home. Changes should have been made, apart from Bewley and Kurtz getting out the gate i can see the home riders reeling in the rest and Dan and Brady have been passed at Foxhall when making the gate as well. Bottom line is we arent as a good a team as Ipswich.

[SUPERACE]

5 hours ago, TTT said:

Ipswich by 20+

Kurtz won't take any risks now as he's got a serious chance of becoming WC this year, Bewley will score a few and Lidsey will chip in if he makes a Gate.

Don't expect anything from Blodorn, Cook, Zischke or Mulford.

26 minimum i expect. 

[GeneralMelchett]

Take heart Aces fans, Kurtz can beat the best at Foxhall IF he gates, Zac Cook had a blistering meeting when riding for Wolves the other year so it can be done. I think the Witches will win but it won't be a walk in the park. I think something like 50-40 - looking forward to it anyway and plan to be there.

[ShanoXtra]

Disappointed not to see Jenkins named. He will need meeting to get up to speed so are we not backing him or what?

[Aries]

2 hours ago, Gavan said:

Last time at foxhall

 Heat 1 …. Doyle passed Kurtz 

Heat 6….King passed Bewley 

Heat 8…. Mulford gated twice both times passed by King 

Heat 14…. Thompson and Cook good battle 

Heat 15…. King passed Kurtz 

So yes our track isn’t as good as yours but you still get some good overtaking and close races 

Though it does seem that when your team do gate at Foxhall the home team have the skill set to get past.

Last night proved it’s not just the technical tracks that your bottom 4 struggle with it’s any track 

 

 

 

 

Stop taking the bait. 

[Aries]

23 minutes ago, ShanoXtra said:

Disappointed not to see Jenkins named. He will need meeting to get up to speed so are we not backing him or what?

TBF they weren’t entirely sure when Jenkins was going to return and they gave Edwards a 28 day deal. They’re not the sort to go back on that so Edwards (rightly IMO) will get the full 28 days. 

[The Third Man]

51 minutes ago, Aries said:

TBF they weren’t entirely sure when Jenkins was going to return and they gave Edwards a 28 day deal. They’re not the sort to go back on that so Edwards (rightly IMO) will get the full 28 days. 

They are not allowed to go back on it he must get the full 28 days

[ShanoXtra]

45 minutes ago, The Third Man said:

They are not allowed to go back on it he must get the full 28 days

That’s mad, a rider who signed for you officially at the start of the season, mapped his whole season for you and sorted travelling out and equipment plus mechanics etc isn’t allowed to come back when fit, there should be a break clause in the deal allowing him to return when required in my opinion.

[ouch]

4 hours ago, Gavan said:

Last time at foxhall

 Heat 1 …. Doyle passed Kurtz 

Heat 6….King passed Bewley 

Heat 8…. Mulford gated twice both times passed by King 

Heat 14…. Thompson and Cook good battle 

Heat 15…. King passed Kurtz 

So yes our track isn’t as good as yours but you still get some good overtaking and close races 

Though it does seem that when your team do gate at Foxhall the home team have the skill set to get past.

Last night proved it’s not just the technical tracks that your bottom 4 struggle with it’s any track 

 

 

 

 

Spot on and as good an argument for one lap dashes being adopted by UK speedway as I’ve ever seen. 

[Roger Jacobs]

2 hours ago, ShanoXtra said:

Disappointed not to see Jenkins named. He will need meeting to get up to speed so are we not backing him or what?

He can’t ride for the Witches until the 28 Days of Edwards’ injury replacement expires.

Edited 5 hours ago by Roger Jacobs

[Gavan]

1 hour ago, ouch said:

Spot on and as good an argument for one lap dashes being adopted by UK speedway as I’ve ever seen. 

You are very strange 

Speedway has always had big and small tracks that’s the essence of the sport 

Of course your track is great but not every track can be like that can it 

The fact is at Belle Vue you have the best two riders in the league (arguably) 
These two riders go well everywhere and I’ve seen Bewley come from the back at Foxhall many times including one sensational race with Emil … I spoke to Bewley a couple of times and he loves riding Foxhall and Kurtz also doesn’t mind it … this is called class and talent 

Unfortunately the rest of your team (unless Lidsey traps) can only ride the home track and are vulnerable away …. This is how speedway is now all about fast engines and the skill set isn’t required as much 

If the rest of your team attack away tracks like the top 2 then you would do much better 

 

[ShanoXtra]

34 minutes ago, Gavan said:

You are very strange 

Speedway has always had big and small tracks that’s the essence of the sport 

Of course your track is great but not every track can be like that can it 

The fact is at Belle Vue you have the best two riders in the league (arguably) 
These two riders go well everywhere and I’ve seen Bewley come from the back at Foxhall many times including one sensational race with Emil … I spoke to Bewley a couple of times and he loves riding Foxhall and Kurtz also doesn’t mind it … this is called class and talent 

Unfortunately the rest of your team (unless Lidsey traps) can only ride the home track and are vulnerable away …. This is how speedway is now all about fast engines and the skill set isn’t required as much 

If the rest of your team attack away tracks like the top 2 then you would do much better 

 

Last night was point and case of that! Nobody wanted to attack the air fence from Belle Vue, Holder alluded to the fact he doesn’t like heat 13 when he had stiff competition and has to ride as wide as possible. 
Can I just add I personally think Bewley is the most likeable Brit we have, he is very down to earth and just feels like a guy who wants to get on his bike and push the limits, I think he has more about him than Kurtz who does give up more than Bewley or opts to not get involved, people give him a pass because of fighting for the world title but for me, Bewley gives more to Belle Vue and British Speedway. When Doyle hangs up his Kevlars I’d love to see Bewley down here (I know it won’t happen).

[Gavan]

1 hour ago, ShanoXtra said:

Last night was point and case of that! Nobody wanted to attack the air fence from Belle Vue, Holder alluded to the fact he doesn’t like heat 13 when he had stiff competition and has to ride as wide as possible. 
Can I just add I personally think Bewley is the most likeable Brit we have, he is very down to earth and just feels like a guy who wants to get on his bike and push the limits, I think he has more about him than Kurtz who does give up more than Bewley or opts to not get involved, people give him a pass because of fighting for the world title but for me, Bewley gives more to Belle Vue and British Speedway. When Doyle hangs up his Kevlars I’d love to see Bewley down here (I know it won’t happen).

Absolutely agree 

Spoken to Dan a few times at Ipswich always got time to have pics after the meeting with my kids and speaks well

He has said to me he likes Ipswich and he said the home riders are dialled on and he likes the challenge of where to put the bike to get the best out of it ….. 

Yes he flies around his home track but a truely top rider wants to learn all tracks and skills and he certainly does that including winning at Cardiff twice 

Chatted to Kurtz too last time and he came across a decent guy to be fair would be good to see him win the world championship