TTT Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago (edited) TNT have lost Europa League and Conference League to Sky Sports now. BSPL need to find out whether TNT have gone broke or not because it's a potential opportunity to explore. Edited 13 hours ago by TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 33 minutes ago, IainB said: TNT could maybe want to go for the hat trick of binning Speedway off for a third time 😂 Did they bin it off or have they gone broke? They've lost an awful lot of content recently. Now we're hearing about all UEFA Club Competition rights being lost as well. Edited 14 hours ago by TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 5 hours ago, Wee Eck said: Both of whom have ridden championship in the past. Teams don’t overlook riders who they believe to be competent enough. I think Nathan was unfortunate but don’t know why. I’m sure he’ll get a place during 2026. As for Ben, he’s 31 and has had many chances. A team succeeds by bringing in riders who improve during the year but I don’t think that can still be expected of Ben. On the other side, Max Perry, for one, is the type of rider that teams believe has a lot more to give so I’d expect him to get a place next year. Morley & Ablitt were overlooked due to the averages to a degree, plus Ablitt didn't want to travel. Both of these riders would have done better than a 2.00 rider, but couldn't because of the averages. So it's not correct to say they weren't picked because they wouldn't be competent enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 17 minutes ago, TTT said: Did they bin it off or have they gone broke? They've lost an awful lot of content recently. Now we're hearing about all UEFA Club Competition rights being lost as well. I think £1m ayear on Speedway was loose change for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago (edited) On the basis that TNT haven't gone broke and that the Channel will still exist. Granted TNT may not like British Speedway but when you're running a Channel that's behind a pay wall, You'll need to produce content otherwise you won't get subscribers. Future Speedway Ventures and the BSPL do need to get in contact with TNT to explore the situation as they may have rejected the initial chance to renew the British Speedway contract due to them being invovled in a bidding war over UEFA Club Competition rights where the price was was soaring. Now that they've officially lost that bidding war, They will have a lot of money left to spend. Future Speedway Ventures and the BSPL will be desperate for a TV deal and they'll take any offer presented to them and TNT will be desperate for content after losing various rights to various Sports, Therefore they can get some easy content for peanuts when it comes to British Speedway. Edited 12 hours ago by TTT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagrag Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, TTT said: Did they bin it off or have they gone broke? They've lost an awful lot of content recently. Now we're hearing about all UEFA Club Competition rights being lost as well. TNT have not gone broke but are in transition they will likely end up being online only as DMax like the rest of Europe. The Sky sports announcement this evening was meant to be in the morning but as usual UK newspapers couldn’t wait to break the news . As others have said it may be worth Future Speedway ventures going back to TNT to see if they are interested in broadcasting Speedway if the sport part funded the production costs . The CL announcement is a shock we were confident at Sky that we had the lower European competitions which actually features more UK clubs than the CL. However it was thought that TNT would retain the CL as there offer was a substantial increase on the last deal but Paramount have gone even higher Edited 12 hours ago by flagrag 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 38 minutes ago, flagrag said: As others have said it may be worth Future Speedway ventures going back to TNT to see if they are interested in broadcasting Speedway if the sport part funded the production costs . Speedway hasn’t got a pot to pee in, it can’t fund itself let alone let alone part fund a company like discovery to show its racing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago Just now, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Speedway hasn’t got a pot to pee in, it can’t fund itself let alone let alone part fund a company like discovery to show its racing Agreed but I wouldn't rule out a TNT U-Turn on that tbh. They would've been planning to spend Millions on UEFA Champions League rights. They've been absolutely rinsed tonight and it's left them with a severe lack of content from 2027. They'll have no choice but to pick up content now even if they don't rate it that highly. British Speedway for peanuts is an easy starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phannan Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 4 hours ago, TTT said: Agreed but I wouldn't rule out a TNT U-Turn on that tbh. They would've been planning to spend Millions on UEFA Champions League rights. They've been absolutely rinsed tonight and it's left them with a severe lack of content from 2027. They'll have no choice but to pick up content now even if they don't rate it that highly. British Speedway for peanuts is an easy starter. British Speedway is worth peanuts tbh. The way it’s run with clubs dictating to the sport is laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago I can just imagine the big wigs at TNT heaving a sigh of relief that they can plug a European football gap with British Speedway. Give over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Ben91 said: I can just imagine the big wigs at TNT heaving a sigh of relief that they can plug a European football gap with British Speedway. Give over. The CEO will be getting hold of Darren Fletcher at this early hour, to give 'Arry a bell... "Get hold of him Darren quickly, I only hope it isn't too late and Prime, Paramount and Sky have all nipped in with offers to them"... "And do you know anyone in the Kabaddi hierarchy? Just in case".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathcote Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 14 hours ago, 1 valve said: You are a bit behind with your comments and maths. To help you catch up First you need to understand the number of available riders is not simply 13x7 because in one big league, A. There cannot be riders doubling up so these count as one. I.e Leicester this year had 4 out of seven who also rode in the Championship. B. Unless all teams agree to ride on Monday & Thursday riders who race in Poland & Scandinavia will also not be available. I.e In Leicester’s case this would remove three riders. Having done that, the number of C. Individual riders who are at the very least capable of riding competitively in a league somewhat similar to that of the current championship will be sufficient to create 8 teams (not 13) or if riders from the NDL are included then maybe 9 teams. But these lads will not be competitive and maybe even be an on track danger to themselves & others. Finally on the matter of the BSPL making final decisions they are working towards the end of November to do so. The AGM on Jan 6th will be as per normal function of company procedure. I say again 97 different riders rode in the UK last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 14 hours ago, IainB said: a) scrap fixed race nights, it's killing clubs. b) there were 151 riders active in British Speedway last year, even if half of them left, it's still enough for 14 x 5 rider teams. c) Worky etc. could compete at a sensible level d) 101 Query1 Name SumOfMatches Luke Harrison 48 Chris Harris 44 Danny King 44 Drew Kemp 44 Richard Lawson 44 Sam Masters 44 Charles Wright 43 Joe Thompson 43 Luke Killeen 43 Tate Zischke 43 Zach Cook 43 Kyle Howarth 42 Anders Rowe 41 Leon Flint 40 Jake Mulford 39 Michele Castagna 38 Peter Kildemand 37 Nicolai Klindt 36 Dan Thompson 35 Sam Hagon 35 Ace Pijper 34 Jason Edwards 34 Justin Sedgmen 34 Lewis Kerr 34 Jonas Jeppesen 32 Jody Scott 31 Freddy Hodder 30 Max Perry 29 Dayle Wood 28 Vinnie Foord 28 William Cairns 28 Jordan Jenkins 26 Jye Etheridge 26 Chris Holder 24 Dan Bewley 24 Max Fricke 24 Ryan Douglas 24 Tobiasz Musielak 24 Tom Brennan 24 Adam Ellis 23 Antti Vuolas 23 Ben Trigger 23 Emil Sayfutdinov 23 Jaimon Lidsey 23 Keynan Rew 23 Maciej Janowski 23 Niels-Kristian Iversen 23 Rohan Tungate 23 Brady Kurtz 22 Jack Holder 22 Jan Kvech 22 Jordy Loftus 22 Josh Pickering 22 Tom Spencer 22 Victor Palovaara 22 Jason Doyle 21 Ben Barker 20 Connor Mountain 20 Kye Thomson 20 Matej Zagar 20 Norick Blodorn 20 Paul Starke 20 Simon Lambert 20 Troy Batchelor 20 Zaine Kennedy 20 Darryl Ritchings 19 Erik Riss 19 Jacob Hook 19 Jonatan Grahn 19 Steve Worrall 19 Tobias Thomsen 19 Alfie Bowtell 18 Cooper Rushen 18 Declan Kennedy 18 Jack Smith 18 Jake Allen 18 Ryan Ingram 18 Senna Summers 18 Arran Butcher 17 Mitch McDiarmid 17 Cameron Heeps 16 Fraser Bowes 16 Luke Harris 16 Ashton Vale 15 Eli Meadows 15 Ashton Boughen 14 Francis Gusts 14 Harry Fletcher 14 Luke Becker 14 Max Broadhurst 14 Michael Palm Toft 14 Nick Morris 14 Stene Pijper 14 Craig Cook 13 Danyon Hume 13 Harrison Rogers 13 Jonas Knudsen 13 Kai Ward 13 Ben Cook 12 Ben Morley 12 Connor Coles 12 Jacob Clouting 12 Lasse Fredriksen 12 Sam McGurk 12 Jamie Etherington 11 Billy Budd 10 Charlie Southwick 10 Jack Shimelt 10 Lee Harrison 10 Mitchell Cluff 10 Scott Nicholls 10 Calum Mitchell 8 Mark Parker 8 Mason Watson 8 Max James 8 Mickie Simpson 8 Sonny Springer 8 Villads Nagel 7 Dan Gilkes 6 Danny Phillips 6 Jack Kingston 6 Matt Marson 6 Michael Jepsen Jensen 6 Nathan Hargrave 6 Charlie Wood 5 Jamie Halder 5 Kenzie Cossey 5 Nathan Ablitt 5 Oskar Polis 5 Sam Woods 5 Ben Rathbone 4 Elliot Kelly 4 Caydin Martin 3 Dylan Huthwaite 3 Kieran Douglas 3 Luke Crang 3 Morgan Williams 3 Owen Booth 3 Seth Norman 3 Bastian Borke 2 Daniel Klima 2 Harley Driscoll-Freeman 2 Joe Crewe 2 Kyran Lyden 2 Laylen Richardson 2 Liam Greens 2 Bailey Fellows 1 Connor King 1 Jack Crewe 1 Jack Franklin 1 Ollie Binns 1 11 minutes ago, Heathcote said: I say again 97 different riders rode in the UK last year 151 actually... compared to 278 in 2010 Edited 2 hours ago by IainB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 12 minutes ago, IainB said: 151 actually... compared to 278 in 2010 But that would only leave just over 10 for the fourteen teams to use.... Impossible to run one league.... It will kill Speedway.... Lights touchpaper... And steps back to a safe distance... 5 4 3 2 1... Incoming!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, mikebv said: But that would only leave just over 10 for the fourteen teams to use.... Impossible to run one league.... It will kill Speedway.... Lights touchpaper... And steps back to a safe distance... 5 4 3 2 1... Incoming!!! Perhaps riders at 6 and 7 would be allocated to a club based on the day of a week that a team is riding. For example you have a pool of 6 and 7s and you pick the ones that ride best on a wet Wednesday evening on the south coast. That policy would in part overcome the shortage riders with the top five making up the regular team and then race two home and two away and bobs you uncle, no need to double up and riders would broadly earn the same as they currently do riding for two clubs. It just takes thinking outside the circle👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, Hawk127 said: Perhaps riders at 6 and 7 would be allocated to a club based on the day of a week that a team is riding. For example you have a pool of 6 and 7s and you pick the ones that ride best on a wet Wednesday evening on the south coast. That policy would in part overcome the shortage riders with the top five making up the regular team and then race two home and two away and bobs you uncle, no need to double up and riders would broadly earn the same as they currently do riding for two clubs. It just takes thinking outside the circle👍 dont you start with the 6&7 rubbish on here 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJA Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 22 hours ago, 1 valve said: And if there was to be no prem or champ leagues but a third “hybrid” that the club he signed for was not a part of? Or that the club deemed him surplus to requirements? The issue as I found it was the contract is not precise, it does not specify many details. I was shocked, a good barrister would hold the clubs to it. I would describe it as lazy. But having looked at the 2025 rule book anyone from the legal profession can find holes all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, Ben91 said: I can just imagine the big wigs at TNT heaving a sigh of relief that they can plug a European football gap with British Speedway. Give over. You're missing the point. TNT even if they don't rate a particular Sport, Will have no choice but to take on more content if they want to stay afloat. Lack of Content = Lack of Subscribers. Lack of Subscribers = End Game! Only real selling point from 2027 onwards is a Lunchtime PL Kick-Off and barely anyone is taking out a Subscription for that. Over the last few months TNT have lost Basketball and Boxing too so it's not just UEFA Club Competitions. TNT are just as desperate for content as British Speedway is for a TV deal.....It's a match made in heaven at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, SJA said: The issue as I found it was the contract is not precise, it does not specify many details. I was shocked, a good barrister would hold the clubs to it. I would describe it as lazy. But having looked at the 2025 rule book anyone from the legal profession can find holes all over it. To be fair, it was ever thus... Self-employed workers being "assets" springs to mind as one of the biggest challenges that could have been made down the years .. With these self employed people getting banned for withholding their services when not being paid, being particularly something that would get slaughtered... No asset system anymore obviously... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Any sign of Harry in central London this morning banging on the doors of all the major broadcasters ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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