Petecc Posted 10 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 3 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said: To be fair to Alfie like all other riders he is free to ask for what he likes and its the promotions job to decide if he's worth that amount. There's a stand off waiting to happen, promotions will have to start saying no but i respect that riders shouldn't have to leave home knowing they will make a big loss. A sensible post on bsf, you be careful. I would like to add that It shouldn't be any of our business either or how any promotion make their money , be it selling badges or robbing banks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Petecc said: A sensible post on bsf, you be careful. I would like to add that It shouldn't be any of our business either or how any promotion make their money , be it selling badges or robbing banks. No it isn’t sensible, the control board should set out a pay structure and enforce it and riders either take it or leave it, if an amateur rider can’t make it pay that’s tough, it’s amatuer, until we get away from entitlement for riders we will never move forward, nobody wanted to listen when I tried to cut costs for riders, well fine you made your bed don’t complain when the springs stick in your back . I don’t care how any promotion make their money or how much money they haven’t got all I care is the future of the sport and at the moment it doesn’t have one 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 49 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: No it isn’t sensible, the control board should set out a pay structure and enforce it and riders either take it or leave it, if an amateur rider can’t make it pay that’s tough, it’s amatuer, until we get away from entitlement for riders we will never move forward, nobody wanted to listen when I tried to cut costs for riders, well fine you made your bed don’t complain when the springs stick in your back . I don’t care how any promotion make their money or how much money they haven’t got all I care is the future of the sport and at the moment it doesn’t have one This league should be as low cost as possible entry level to the sport( a paying hobby at this level) ,riders should not be expected to have all the "bells and whistles " equipment of the upper leagues . Decent reliable and affordable bikes within set parameters should be mandatory, so riders can improve their skills and not win or progress due to deep pockets . Edited 9 hours ago by FAST GATER 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 7 minutes ago, FAST GATER said: This league should be as low cost as possible entry level to the sport( a paying hobby at this level) ,riders should not be expected to have all the "bells and whistles " equipment of the upper leagues . Decent reliable and affordable bikes within set parameters should be mandatory, so riders can improve their skills and not win or progress due to deep pockets . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago Even at today’s standards and equipment/prices you could could go buy 2 decent bikes, all the riding gear and the equipment to set up your workshop to service your own engines all for under £5000,no fancy covers or shiny new wheels and it would be good enough to ride in the national league which would pay you £20 per point, where else are you going to get any other motorcycle sport to achieve that level with such an investment and pay back? The trouble is we have grown a breed of entitlement within riders for what is an amatuer level and it’s backed up by promoters and parents, just because you want to be a speedway rider doesn’t mean someone else should be paying for your privilege 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 48 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Even at today’s standards and equipment/prices you could could go buy 2 decent bikes, all the riding gear and the equipment to set up your workshop to service your own engines all for under £5000,no fancy covers or shiny new wheels and it would be good enough to ride in the national league which would pay you £20 per point, where else are you going to get any other motorcycle sport to achieve that level with such an investment and pay back? The trouble is we have grown a breed of entitlement within riders for what is an amatuer level and it’s backed up by promoters and parents, just because you want to be a speedway rider doesn’t mean someone else should be paying for your privilege Spot on ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Even at today’s standards and equipment/prices you could could go buy 2 decent bikes, all the riding gear and the equipment to set up your workshop to service your own engines all for under £5000,no fancy covers or shiny new wheels and it would be good enough to ride in the national league which would pay you £20 per point, where else are you going to get any other motorcycle sport to achieve that level with such an investment and pay back? The trouble is we have grown a breed of entitlement within riders for what is an amatuer level and it’s backed up by promoters and parents, just because you want to be a speedway rider doesn’t mean someone else should be paying for your privilege Being the parent of a rider we have no sense of entitlement as a family we have worked hard to get the boy to the level he at . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) It cost over £8k for a new mx bike theses days £5k for a decent second had one and parents pay around £50 every weekend to race so speedway is pretty cheap and can be run on a budget, a decent well serviced engine for a nl rider should do 40 heats if it is looked after before it needs a service . Edited 57 minutes ago by mac101 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 25 minutes ago, phillwhitewasmad said: Being the parent of a rider we have no sense of entitlement as a family we have worked hard to get the boy to the level he at . Good for you 👍and that’s the whole point, so you should have to work hard, damn hard, beyond hard because it’s not a given that anyone makes it as a rider unfortunately too many believe they are entitled to a career a soon as they have a bike Edited 57 minutes ago by THE DEAN MACHINE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 33 minutes ago Report Share Posted 33 minutes ago I just want to add my views on rider pay would be different if 1000s were coming through the turnstiles every week and the sport was flush with money but it isn’t it’s on the brink of extinction and we have to change 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 24 minutes ago Report Share Posted 24 minutes ago 42 minutes ago, mac101 said: It cost over £8k for a new mx bike theses days £5k for a decent second had one and parents pay around £50 every weekend to race so speedway is pretty cheap and can be run on a budget, a decent well serviced engine for a nl rider should do 40 heats if it is looked after before it needs a service . And if you do that engine yourself which isn’t difficult it costs you just the service parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted 22 minutes ago Report Share Posted 22 minutes ago 2 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: And if you do that engine yourself which isn’t difficult it costs you just the service parts Alan Bellham open daily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 5 minutes ago Report Share Posted 5 minutes ago 15 minutes ago, Youhave2minutes said: Alan Bellham open daily. Well there are better places to get your GM bits from but yes he is one of the suppliers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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