Buxton 2026

[Petecc]

3 hours ago, Sings4Speedway said:

To be fair to Alfie like all other riders he is free to ask for what he likes and its the promotions job to decide if he's worth that amount. There's a stand off waiting to happen, promotions will have to start saying no but i respect that riders shouldn't have to leave home knowing they will make a big loss.

A sensible post on bsf, you be careful. 

I would like to add that It shouldn't be any of our business either or how any promotion make their money , be it selling badges or robbing banks.  

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

13 minutes ago, Petecc said:

A sensible post on bsf, you be careful. 

I would like to add that It shouldn't be any of our business either or how any promotion make their money , be it selling badges or robbing banks.  

No it isn’t sensible, the control board should set out a pay structure and enforce it and riders either take it or leave it, if an amateur rider can’t make it pay that’s tough, it’s amatuer, until we get away from entitlement for riders we will never move forward, nobody wanted to listen when I tried to cut costs for riders, well fine you made your bed don’t complain when the springs stick in your back . I don’t care how any promotion make their money or how much money they haven’t got all I care is the future of the sport and at the moment it doesn’t have one 

[FAST GATER]

49 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

No it isn’t sensible, the control board should set out a pay structure and enforce it and riders either take it or leave it, if an amateur rider can’t make it pay that’s tough, it’s amatuer, until we get away from entitlement for riders we will never move forward, nobody wanted to listen when I tried to cut costs for riders, well fine you made your bed don’t complain when the springs stick in your back . I don’t care how any promotion make their money or how much money they haven’t got all I care is the future of the sport and at the moment it doesn’t have one 

This league should be as low cost as possible  entry level to the sport( a paying hobby at this level) ,riders should not be expected to have all the "bells and whistles " equipment  of the upper leagues .  Decent reliable and affordable bikes within set parameters  should be mandatory, so riders  can improve their skills and not win or progress due to deep pockets .  

Edited yesterday at 01:52 PM by FAST GATER

[Youhave2minutes]

7 minutes ago, FAST GATER said:

This league should be as low cost as possible  entry level to the sport( a paying hobby at this level) ,riders should not be expected to have all the "bells and whistles " equipment  of the upper leagues .  Decent reliable and affordable bikes within set parameters  should be mandatory, so riders  can improve their skills and not win or progress due to deep pockets .  

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

Even at today’s standards and equipment/prices you could could go buy 2 decent bikes, all the riding gear and the equipment to set up your workshop to service your own engines all for under £5000,no fancy covers or shiny new wheels and it would be good enough to ride in the national league which would pay you £20 per point, where else are you going to get any other motorcycle sport to achieve that level with such an investment and pay back? The trouble is we have grown a breed of entitlement within riders for what is an amatuer level and it’s backed up by promoters and parents, just because you want to be a speedway rider doesn’t mean someone else should be paying for your privilege 

[FAST GATER]

48 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

Even at today’s standards and equipment/prices you could could go buy 2 decent bikes, all the riding gear and the equipment to set up your workshop to service your own engines all for under £5000,no fancy covers or shiny new wheels and it would be good enough to ride in the national league which would pay you £20 per point, where else are you going to get any other motorcycle sport to achieve that level with such an investment and pay back? The trouble is we have grown a breed of entitlement within riders for what is an amatuer level and it’s backed up by promoters and parents, just because you want to be a speedway rider doesn’t mean someone else should be paying for your privilege 

Spot on !

[phillwhitewasmad]

1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

Even at today’s standards and equipment/prices you could could go buy 2 decent bikes, all the riding gear and the equipment to set up your workshop to service your own engines all for under £5000,no fancy covers or shiny new wheels and it would be good enough to ride in the national league which would pay you £20 per point, where else are you going to get any other motorcycle sport to achieve that level with such an investment and pay back? The trouble is we have grown a breed of entitlement within riders for what is an amatuer level and it’s backed up by promoters and parents, just because you want to be a speedway rider doesn’t mean someone else should be paying for your privilege 

Being the parent of a rider we have no sense of entitlement as a family we have worked hard to get the boy to the level he at . 

[mac101]

It cost over £8k for a new mx bike theses days £5k for a decent second had one  and parents pay around £50 every weekend to race so speedway is pretty cheap and can be run on a budget, a decent well serviced engine for a nl rider should do 40 heats if it is looked after before it needs a service .

Edited 17 hours ago by mac101

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

2 hours ago, phillwhitewasmad said:

Being the parent of a rider we have no sense of entitlement as a family we have worked hard to get the boy to the level he at . 

Good for you 👍and that’s the whole point, so you should have to work hard, damn hard, beyond hard because it’s not a given that anyone makes it as a rider unfortunately too many believe they are entitled to a paid career a soon as they have a bike 

Edited 15 hours ago by THE DEAN MACHINE

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

I just want to add my views on rider pay would be different if 1000s were coming through the turnstiles every week and the sport was flush with money but it isn’t it’s on the brink of extinction and we have to change 

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

42 minutes ago, mac101 said:

It cost over £8k for a new mx bike theses days £5k for a decent second had one  and parents pay around £50 every weekend to race so speedway is pretty cheap and can be run on a budget, a decent well serviced engine for a nl rider should do 40 heats if it is looked after before it needs a service .

And if you do that engine yourself which isn’t difficult it costs you just the service parts 

[Youhave2minutes]

2 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

And if you do that engine yourself which isn’t difficult it costs you just the service parts 

Alan Bellham open daily.

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

15 minutes ago, Youhave2minutes said:

Alan Bellham open daily.

Well there are better places to get your GM bits from but yes he is one of the suppliers 

[Youhave2minutes]

10 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

Well there are better places to get your GM bits from but yes he is one of the suppliers 

[Preston Comet]

I blame the internet.

Kids want the best of everything to pist on theyre Instagram 

[Youhave2minutes]

11 minutes ago, Preston Comet said:

I blame the internet.

It’s good to get your groceries delivered though.

[The H Man]

The NDL is a great ideal in principle, but in practice looking at some of the riders named by teams it could become financial suicide for some!

If you have a promoter with deep pockets who is/are happy to fund things great, but is this a sustainable business model for any longevity of the product?   

At Birmingham in 2025,  the average crowd for the 4 NDT meetings was around 150, less than 30% of the average PL crowd.   Deducting riders pay (no Championship riders involved), insurance, referee, medical, track prep etc costs saw a loss for every meeting despite some generous sponsorship! if you factor in stadium hire costs and security every meeting drained strained resources even further.

Now some clubs might not have the stadium hire or security costs that the landlords at Perry Barr asked, but assume they do have rental obligations, unless they own their track.   

As a stand alone venture, I wish Buxton every success as I know the guys financing it have put some serious funds in, but when you hear of the crowd levels in the past at the venue they are going to have get a lot more people through the door!