Redcar 🐻 (42) vs Poole ☠️ (48) P/Off Semi Final 2nd leg Oct 5th 6pm

[LisaColette]

[Bagpuss]

It'd be interesting to know why Oxford weren't allowed one for Jason Garrad and Poole are for Richard Lawson.

[Tracy Bird]

48 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Joel Parsons? Wasn’t he the guy that rode over another rider and was sacked from his club and banned?

That was Ben Powell,riding for newcastle.

[Steve Shovlar]

Just now, Tracy Bird said:

That was Ben Powell,riding for newcastle.

Thanks for the correction.

[foreverblue]

5 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

It'd be interesting to know why Oxford weren't allowed one for Jason Garrad and Poole are for Richard Lawson.

If it wasnt Poole it wouldnt be under discussion.

[Steve Shovlar]

Possible difference is Championship might be classed as a pro league and NL as amateur. Either way the facility was granted and rightly so. If Wright was replaced tonight on compassionate grounds, there wouldn’t be a single Poole fan questioning it.

Edited 3 hours ago by Steve Shovlar

[Tracy Bird]

19 minutes ago, therefused said:

I’m questioning whether it’s allowed in the rulebook.

Jack holder and Kyle Howarth have missed matches for the same reason this season.

[SteveLyric2]

You can't ask for more than winning home and away.  Solid job Pirates. Same again this coming week and next please.😇

[TheWellBehavedWorrall]

Poole do it again. I hate to say it, but when the chips are down, the Pirates know how to do it.

Against the odds, they won on aggregate at Ashfield and against the odds, they’ve won again tonight; not only on aggregate, but on the evening. Without their talisman on both occasions.

Poole were consistent throughout, but you’re disappointed by Wright, Mulford and King - especially King - if you’re a Redcar fan.

On that note and having given Poole a lot of praise in this post, I’m gutted it’s them. Yes, an opportunity for revenge, but that Wimborne Road track doesn’t deserve a final. It’s boring. Completely and utterly boring.

[Bagpuss]

18 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

If it wasnt Poole it wouldnt be under discussion.

 

15 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Possible difference is Championship might be classed as a pro league and NL as amateur. Either way the facility was granted and rightly so. If Wright was replaced tonight on compassionate grounds, there wouldn’t be a single Poole fan questioning it.

Doesn't really matter which teams are or aren't involved, its the inconsistency that gets to people.

I was under the impression you could have guests for pretty much anything in the NL & NDT anyway, obviously not!

[foreverblue]

6 minutes ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

Poole do it again. I hate to say it, but when the chips are down, the Pirates know how to do it.

Against the odds, they won on aggregate at Ashfield and against the odds, they’ve won again tonight; not only on aggregate, but on the evening. Without their talisman on both occasions.

Poole were consistent throughout, but you’re disappointed by Wright, Mulford and King - especially King - if you’re a Redcar fan.

On that note and having given Poole a lot of praise in this post, I’m gutted it’s them. Yes, an opportunity for revenge, but that Wimborne Road track doesn’t deserve a final. It’s boring. Completely and utterly boring.

Redcar was a bit boring tonight wasn't it? Glasgow should win the final overall, they have 5 heat leaders!!

[lbw]

Oh my how I'm gonna enjoy me celebration flat white ☕ in the morning. Might go the whole hog and av jam on me toast! 😂

[TheWellBehavedWorrall]

Just now, foreverblue said:

Redcar was a bit boring tonight wasn't it? Glasgow should win the final overall, they have 5 heat leaders!!

I did think that, but didn’t want to be overly critical.

[foreverblue]

1 minute ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

I did think that, but didn’t want to be overly critical.

But your happy to be over critical of the Poole track.

[Sir Sidney]

3 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

 

Doesn't really matter which teams are or aren't involved, its the inconsistency that gets to people.

I was under the impression you could have guests for pretty much anything in the NL & NDT anyway, obviously not!

As per tbe Regulations 

 

010.5 FACILITIES
A Reduced facility (No Facility in British Development) only, is permitted to 
replace a rider, who although included in a re-declaration has not made an 
appearance for that team since being re-declared. However, the team has 
the option to revert to the previous declaration.

A team may utilise a facility to cover the absence of a rider(s) who is: -
a) FIM World Speedway Championship and FIM World Long Track 
duty
b) FIM Speedway of Nations / FIM Speedway World Cup duty
c) FIME Speedway Championship duty

d) the riders own FMN National Championship

e) engaged elsewhere at a BSP LTD shared or purchased meeting

f) recalled in accordance with the FIM SLB regulations

g) injured whilst speedway racing

This must be recorded on the Meeting Report by the Referee. This

facility will apply automatically for a period up to a maximum of 28

days. The Promotion may apply to the SCB Co-Ordinator for an

extension.

If a rider has not declared illness or injury to the Referee before the

closure of the meeting, as per the Meeting Report, subsequently

provides a medical certificate, they will receive a mandatory 7 day

suspension of their SCB Registration

h) sick or carrying a non-speedway injury.

The rider must immediately inform the SCB and their club. A

Medical Certificate must be supplied to the SCB within 48 hours of

the sickness/injury occurring in which case the rider will receive a

mandatory 7 day suspension of his SCB Registration from the day

of the first meeting missed.

This facility will apply automatically for a period up to a maximum

of 28 days. The Promotion may apply to the SCB Co-Ordinator for

an extension

i) suspended by the FIM, ACU, SCB or riders FMN

j) in dispute with his club, provided that the circumstances have been

accepted by the SCB Co-Ordinator who will determine the facility

and period of the riders inactivity

k) retiring during the current season a facility will be granted for a

period of 28 days. After which the team must re-apply for a further

facility to the SCB Co-Ordinator outlining the steps they have taken

to find a replacement. An extension may be granted.

In these circumstances a rider cannot return to ride for any club

within 28 days, effective from the date of notification to the SCB

l) a Championship rider who’s own FMN does not have a current

agreement with the BSP LTD and is competing in another FMN’s

National, League or Open Meeting. This will result in the riders

SCB Registration being suspended for one (1) season and the

riders team will be automatically granted a facility for a maximum

period of 28 days, after which that team must re-declare

m) awaiting medical clearance from the riders FMN

n) NDL and NDT only: absent for any other reason - applicable to

riders 18 years old and under, providing 3 days’ notice is given

o) a rider with an assessed MA

p) has been approved in a teams declared 1-7 at the start of the

season but due to extenuating circumstances is not available, a

facility may be granted, up to a maximum of 28 days, at the SCB

Co-Ordinators discretion. In the NDL and NDT this only applies if

the rider was in that teams 1-7 at the close of the previous season

 

 

Therefore, I would imagine that Poole were granted a facility under subsection p)

There is a distinction between PL / Championship , and NDL/NDT, 

[lbw]

6 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

Redcar was a bit boring tonight wasn't it? Glasgow should win the final overall, they have 5 heat leaders!!

Ermmmmm, remind who knocked Glasgow out of the Cup?????🤔

[foreverblue]

5 minutes ago, lbw said:

Ermmmmm, remind who knocked Glasgow out of the Cup?????🤔

They didn't have Nagel then and he is a riders who is going places in the sport but after tonight anything is possible.

[Steve Shovlar]

7 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

But your happy to be over critical of the Poole track.

No passing tonight after second bend in 15 heats. As each lap went on riders got more spaced out. 

I didn’t find it dull due to what was at stake, but for a neutral it must have been a very poor watch. But Redcar only have themselves to blame. The overwatering took away any home advantage, rendering Wright and Kings passing ability obsolete. What were they seriously thinking? They went into tonight’s meeting as clear favourites. I was thinking the worst at heat one but when Thomsen gated and held off Wright, I thought, hmmm, perhaps we might be in with a sniff.

Wright and King had a terrible meeting. There was no consistency with any Redcar rider. 

I bet next week the track is completely different and will suit the Redcar team much better. Pirates will need a bigger lead to take back up there.

[SteveArena]

You have to go to Glasgae Shovvy fly up. You are loaded could buy Sheffield if you wanted to!

[Steve Shovlar]

6 minutes ago, SteveArena said:

You have to go to Glasgae Shovvy fly up. You are loaded could buy Sheffield if you wanted to!

Flew up a couple of years ago when cop26 was on. Travel Lodge at £650 a night. 😛

Too far, easy to watch stream. Yes it’s rubbish to being there but too just too far.

Edited 3 hours ago by Steve Shovlar