Poole v Glasgow, 15/10/25, Glasgow v Poole, 17/10/25 Championship Final

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1 minute ago, Nickinho said:

I would have gone with Nagel in the superheat because up until his engine failure he had been flying. I also feel that Howarth couldn't handle the pressure in those last two heats and a younger more fearless head might have been the better option. In the end Harris had given his all and had no more to give so it's all a moot point now. 

Yes Nagel would have been a good choice too,either way definitely not Howarth. Harris absolutely gave his all, he was amazing.

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15 minutes ago, Fingersfin said:

Leon has improved this year but still don't think he is a go to man (that will come)

Dan probably the trapper to pick if we were going to swap.

BSN captured an intense discussion before the GH with Dan, Kyle and Chris in the picture so wonder if that was suggested?

Poole winning the gate choice for the golden heat was important as I would hope Glasgow had it in their plans to swap.

Yes but to pick Howarth who hadn't gated all night was clearly a poor decision.

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49 minutes ago, TracksideView said:

Could be worse , i could be wearing my Stone Island gear trying to square go kids and elderly folk.

That's one way of responding to Blobby. Perhaps he could also be given the 'black spot'.

[Steve Shovlar]

28 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

Lewis Kerr has really come good lately, I have been critical of him during the season and doubted if he had it in him but he has definitely come good when it mattered most.

I think most would have put Flint in the superheat, it was obvious Howarth was not going to trouble the scorers after heat 15.

Likewise re: Kerr. He was extremely poor for2/3rds of the season. Plagued by bike issues and lacking the confidence but in the last few weeks he has ridden much more to his ability and last night made a crucial pass of Thompson which helped win the meeting. 

[Mr Blobby]

3 minutes ago, SharpenRake said:

That's one way of responding to Blobby. Perhaps he could also be given the 'black spot'.

I know what you’re referring to but I’m not him 😂. 
 

Quite insulted you’ve even suggested it 😂

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22 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

Yes Nagel would have been a good choice too,either way definitely not Howarth. Harris absolutely gave his all, he was amazing.

The problem the #2 always has with heat 15/16 is it's just so long since they were last out. Their last ride at home is heat 10. Two grading breaks and an interval. The track changes, the bike cools down, the rider cools down a bit too. I think it's the hardest rider position to throw in the last heat, regardless of how good they look.

Also, he didn't always gate so good last night either! Looked incredible when he did though.

I was happy with trusting Kyle again. 2,2,2,3 on his first four rides. I don't think Dan was obviously a better choice. Leon could've been worth a punt, but I always think unless your big riders have been obviously off the pace, you trust them in the big heats. Someone does have to come last though.

Bomber got beaten by both anyway, so it seems daft to point at Kyle. Both were beaten fair and square.

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27 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Likewise re: Kerr. He was extremely poor for2/3rds of the season. Plagued by bike issues and lacking the confidence but in the last few weeks he has ridden much more to his ability and last night made a crucial pass of Thompson which helped win the meeting. 

Could be worth having him back as his average has dropped.

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9 hours ago, Mr Blobby said:

Poor soul, probably out celebrating that most entertaining track trophy. 😁

Not a bad imaginary trophy to have in fairness. What a night of racing that is just the complete norm at Ashfield now. Not one person in the stadium or on BSN left that meeting disappointed aside from tigers fans with the result. The tigers gave absolutely everything and once we were level on aggregate everything that went before became irrelevant because we had them where we wanted them and unfortunately it was just not to be.

That heat 15 from bomber was phenomenal he was so far behind in last place and then about a bend behind in second place but put it on the line to keep the meeting alive.

Howarth was the correct choice in both races also, sadly it was just not to be. The only frustrating thing for me was in the super heat he made the gate and instead of doing what he had done all night which was run everybody and anybody up to the fence he stuck to the inside and that was that. 

Disappointing to win the league overall and come away with 0 trophies but I will say what I seem to say most seasons now. I would rather be entertained like that every week and finish second than watch FTG processional tripe and win. Congratulations to the Facenas on another great season and thanks to everybody at Glasgow for all their hard work throughout.

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23 minutes ago, Noelinho said:

The problem the #2 always has with heat 15/16 is it's just so long since they were last out. Their last ride at home is heat 10. Two grading breaks and an interval. The track changes, the bike cools down, the rider cools down a bit too. I think it's the hardest rider position to throw in the last heat, regardless of how good they look.

Also, he didn't always gate so good last night either! Looked incredible when he did though.

I was happy with trusting Kyle again. 2,2,2,3 on his first four rides. I don't think Dan was obviously a better choice. Leon could've been worth a punt, but I always think unless your big riders have been obviously off the pace, you trust them in the big heats. Someone does have to come last though.

Bomber got beaten by both anyway, so it seems daft to point at Kyle. Both were beaten fair and square.

Nagel has done heat 15 before though and he would have given it everything.

Howarth only got a paid win in heat 13 because Lawson crashed. Howarth was off the pace at that point, he was so far behind in heat 13 when Lawson crashed.

Not complaining though, I was over the moon when Cami put Howarth in. Bomber knew the situation, there would have no point in flying past Lawson and Cook to get the win.

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6 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

Nagel has done heat 15 before though and he would have given it everything.

He has, and he would, but he also has the lowest heat 15 average in the team. I don't fancy his chances of improving it in the grand final. 

He was beaten by Lawson in 1, and wasn't beating Kerr/Cook when he retired in 10. He's awesome, but I think we sometimes forget he's not an established heat leader or experienced, and those are really useful attributes in big heats. I don't think you'd see Poole putting a rider like that in a big race, and I think it's because it's a move you make when you already think you're losing and don't trust your heat leaders.

I know he won heat 8 by the distance to the English border, but you sometimes see reserves do that in heat 2, then they come out in heat 4 and you realise you were judging them by the wrong yardstick.

That's not to be down on Nagel at all, btw. 

[SteveArena]

They should do a one off challenge match at Poole 29 Oct v Ipswich. Let Poole use a couple of PL riders to bolster the side. 

Shovvy and Gavan watching the meeting from the centre green or even team managers on the night!

Live on BSN all proceeds going to the Ben Fund.

Everyones a winner!

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16 minutes ago, SilentLurker said:

Not a bad imaginary trophy to have in fairness. What a night of racing that is just the complete norm at Ashfield now. Not one person in the stadium or on BSN left that meeting disappointed aside from tigers fans with the result. The tigers gave absolutely everything and once we were level on aggregate everything that went before became irrelevant because we had them where we wanted them and unfortunately it was just not to be.

That heat 15 from bomber was phenomenal he was so far behind in last place and then about a bend behind in second place but put it on the line to keep the meeting alive.

Howarth was the correct choice in both races also, sadly it was just not to be. The only frustrating thing for me was in the super heat he made the gate and instead of doing what he had done all night which was run everybody and anybody up to the fence he stuck to the inside and that was that. 

Disappointing to win the league overall and come away with 0 trophies but I will say what I seem to say most seasons now. I would rather be entertained like that every week and finish second than watch FTG processional tripe and win. Congratulations to the Facenas on another great season and thanks to everybody at Glasgow for all their hard work throughout.

Howarth was not fast enough and he had not gated all night, he only got a paid win in heat 13 because Lawson crashed. He did gate in the super heat but was easily passed. In my opinion the wrong choice.

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4 minutes ago, Noelinho said:

He has, and he would, but he also has the lowest heat 15 average in the team. I don't fancy his chances of improving it in the grand final. 

He was beaten by Lawson in 1, and wasn't beating Kerr/Cook when he retired in 10. He's awesome, but I think we sometimes forget he's not an established heat leader or experienced, and those are really useful attributes in big heats. I don't think you'd see Poole putting a rider like that in a big race, and I think it's because it's a move you make when you already think you're losing and don't trust your heat leaders.

I know he won heat 8 by the distance to the English border, but you sometimes see reserves do that in heat 2, then they come out in heat 4 and you realise you were judging them by the wrong yardstick.

That's not to be down on Nagel at all, btw. 

Nagel will be a top rider I am sure but as you say inexperienced, my choice would have been Flint or Dan T.

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57 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said:

I know what you’re referring to but I’m not him 😂. 
 

Quite insulted you’ve even suggested it 😂

Seriously, so that suggests there are two of you  quite a large percentage of the Monarchs support  I'm sure you would agree that it was a great performance by the Tigers and great entertainment all round. On any other night, the result would have been brilliant, but in the end one bike failure cost us the aggregate win.

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7 minutes ago, SharpenRake said:

Seriously, so that suggests there are two of you  quite a large percentage of the Monarchs support  I'm sure you would agree that it was a great performance by the Tigers and great entertainment all round. On any other night, the result would have been brilliant, but in the end one bike failure cost us the aggregate win.

Not all us hibs and Edinburgh fans are bad eggs. 😁 

One the reasons I went along last night knew it would be tight and all would be left on the line. 

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21 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said:

Not all us hibs and Edinburgh fans are bad eggs. 😁 

One the reasons I went along last night knew it would be tight and all would be left on the line. 

Pussy.

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1 hour ago, Noelinho said:

The problem the #2 always has with heat 15/16 is it's just so long since they were last out. Their last ride at home is heat 10. Two grading breaks and an interval. The track changes, the bike cools down, the rider cools down a bit too. I think it's the hardest rider position to throw in the last heat, regardless of how good they look.

Also, he didn't always gate so good last night either! Looked incredible when he did though.

I was happy with trusting Kyle again. 2,2,2,3 on his first four rides. I don't think Dan was obviously a better choice. Leon could've been worth a punt, but I always think unless your big riders have been obviously off the pace, you trust them in the big heats. Someone does have to come last though.

Bomber got beaten by both anyway, so it seems daft to point at Kyle. Both were beaten fair and square.

I would have taken a chance on Dan hoping that his fast gating would have created a different mix on the first and second bend….. but it’s all water under the bridge now and no real point in looking back. Lawson and Cook were immaculate in the final heat. 

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13 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Very biased towards Glasgow tonight. 

I have noticed that with others on the BSN commentators/interviewers thought they should be neutral!

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2 hours ago, foreverblue said:

Could be worth having him back as his average has dropped.

Assuming the points limit stays at 40 then Poole have to lose around 4 points from the current 1-7!!

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38 minutes ago, Buttons said:

I have noticed that with others on the BSN commentators/interviewers thought they should be neutral!

Minor detail considering the superb coverage they do.Olly Allen and Kelvin are not exactly neutral on TNT.