Marksman Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago Interesting piece in this week's Speedway Star that the Ford's are pushing for 2H and 2A league fixtures for next season. This needs to happen and do away with the BSN series if needed imo. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago 33 minutes ago, Marksman said: Interesting piece in this week's Speedway Star that the Ford's are pushing for 2H and 2A league fixtures for next season. This needs to happen and do away with the BSN series if needed imo. This season a lot of teams struggled to fit in 1H 1A so how can they fit double this in next season, BSN cup was only 3 more meetings. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago 58 minutes ago, Neila said: This season a lot of teams struggled to fit in 1H 1A so how can they fit double this in next season, BSN cup was only 3 more meetings. So why are Poole, Berwick, Glasgow and Redcar been complaining all season about too many long gaps between fixtures then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago 1 hour ago, Neila said: This season a lot of teams struggled to fit in 1H 1A so how can they fit double this in next season, BSN cup was only 3 more meetings. The fixture gaps are a problem retaining fans it would go along way too resolving it.Take the 3 BSN + the extras for the teams that made the Semi’s and it not that big a problem + some teams didn’t even have fixtures in Oct. Also the fans turned in Oct for Finals so can’t complain about the cold nights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago 14 minutes ago, LisaColette said: So why are Poole, Berwick, Glasgow and Redcar been complaining all season about too many long gaps between fixtures then A lot of the gaps were caused by various FIM meetings ,GP2 etc and lesser Micky mouse European meetings taking away a lot of the teams U24 riders,of all nationalities, so clubs had blank weekends or choose not to be available when the fixture draft was made, rather than run a team of guests or R/R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksman Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, Neila said: This season a lot of teams struggled to fit in 1H 1A so how can they fit double this in next season, BSN cup was only 3 more meetings. It's simple, you hit the ground running from the mid March to the end of August with league fixtures (Just like the Premiership do). Would be 16 home league matches, plus at least one KO Cup fixture, making 17 meetings to fit into 24 Race nights, allowing for rain offs/rider availability. The BSN series is a nonsense competition. While we are on the subject, Mark Lemon's comments on the same page in the SS were tone deaf as usual, speaking about the Championship clubs not to think about themselves being okay (I'm alright jack was what I think was quoted). If he wants to mess about thinking that clubs like Poole and Glasgow should move up to save the Premiership, then he needs to give his head a wobble. The crowds both clubs get provide the best business model to run a sustainable sport with a future. Getting the biggest names in the sport to ride over here is not sustainable in the long term apart from 2/3 clubs unless Lemon is quite happy to see clubs go to the wall. He wants to try promoting speedway outside a major city then he will see how hard it really is. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 10 hours ago, LisaColette said: So why are Poole, Berwick, Glasgow and Redcar been complaining all season about too many long gaps between fixtures then Exactly this going 3 weeks in the height off summer without a fixture for a summer sport is madness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 9 hours ago, Marksman said: It's simple, you hit the ground running from the mid March to the end of August with league fixtures (Just like the Premiership do). Would be 16 home league matches, plus at least one KO Cup fixture, making 17 meetings to fit into 24 Race nights, allowing for rain offs/rider availability. The BSN series is a nonsense competition. While we are on the subject, Mark Lemon's comments on the same page in the SS were tone deaf as usual, speaking about the Championship clubs not to think about themselves being okay (I'm alright jack was what I think was quoted). If he wants to mess about thinking that clubs like Poole and Glasgow should move up to save the Premiership, then he needs to give his head a wobble. The crowds both clubs get provide the best business model to run a sustainable sport with a future. Getting the biggest names in the sport to ride over here is not sustainable in the long term apart from 2/3 clubs unless Lemon is quite happy to see clubs go to the wall. He wants to try promoting speedway outside a major city then he will see how hard it really is. 100% Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PersonalResponsibility Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 9 hours ago, Marksman said: It's simple, you hit the ground running from the mid March to the end of August with league fixtures (Just like the Premiership do). Would be 16 home league matches, plus at least one KO Cup fixture, making 17 meetings to fit into 24 Race nights, allowing for rain offs/rider availability. The BSN series is a nonsense competition. While we are on the subject, Mark Lemon's comments on the same page in the SS were tone deaf as usual, speaking about the Championship clubs not to think about themselves being okay (I'm alright jack was what I think was quoted). If he wants to mess about thinking that clubs like Poole and Glasgow should move up to save the Premiership, then he needs to give his head a wobble. The crowds both clubs get provide the best business model to run a sustainable sport with a future. Getting the biggest names in the sport to ride over here is not sustainable in the long term apart from 2/3 clubs unless Lemon is quite happy to see clubs go to the wall. He wants to try promoting speedway outside a major city then he will see how hard it really is. If the Championship clubs are doing alright but the Premiership needs to continually drag teams up against their will, it feels like there's a lesson in there somewhere. Anyway, isn't it time that Dua Lipa stops thinking about her own marriage going well, and consider what would be best for me instead? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerIain Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 12 hours ago, Marksman said: It's simple, you hit the ground running from the mid March to the end of August with league fixtures (Just like the Premiership do). Would be 16 home league matches, plus at least one KO Cup fixture, making 17 meetings to fit into 24 Race nights, allowing for rain offs/rider availability. The BSN series is a nonsense competition. While we are on the subject, Mark Lemon's comments on the same page in the SS were tone deaf as usual, speaking about the Championship clubs not to think about themselves being okay (I'm alright jack was what I think was quoted). If he wants to mess about thinking that clubs like Poole and Glasgow should move up to save the Premiership, then he needs to give his head a wobble. The crowds both clubs get provide the best business model to run a sustainable sport with a future. Getting the biggest names in the sport to ride over here is not sustainable in the long term apart from 2/3 clubs unless Lemon is quite happy to see clubs go to the wall. He wants to try promoting speedway outside a major city then he will see how hard it really is. Don't kid yourself that promoting speedway in a big city is any easier. The problems might be slightly different but still just as big. Glasgow news (not just sports news) is Dominated by Rangers and Celtic. Then the sports news has everything about the rest of Scottish football, all the English football, the European football, then whatever sport has is major event (Ryder Cup, Olympics, Wimbledon, Snooker World Champs), then Glasgow Warriors and Scotland rugby, then global sports like F1, golf, tennis, then there is just a tiny bit of space left for teams like Caledonia Gladiators (basketball), Glasgow Clan (ice hockey) and the Tigers to fight over. Then factor in other things like the huge live music scene in the city competing for news space and fans money. The Facennas have put a lot of time, money and effort into trying to promote the Tigers in Glasgow but it's hard to be heard. So whilst they might have a big catchment area, they have problems fighting with the other sports and everything else for column inches. I reckon 3/4s of the city population have still never heard of speedway and half the test don't know about the Tigers. NB none of this is a criticism of the Glasgow (or any other) promotion. I've seen some of the hard work the Facennas have done with billboards in the city centre, mutual publicity tie ins with rugby and ice hockey, and at running races and other events, free tickets for new fans. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 14 hours ago, LisaColette said: So why are Poole, Berwick, Glasgow and Redcar been complaining all season about too many long gaps between fixtures then Poole want more meaningful fixtures to help balance their annual stadium rental costs!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: So why are Poole, Berwick, Glasgow and Redcar been complaining all season about too many long gaps between fixtures then It seemed at Scunny we had about three 3 or 4 weeks gaps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Paul Johnson said: It seemed at Scunny we had about three 3 or 4 weeks gaps In a realistic world I think the level of rider standard in the championship is where UK speedway now sits, in the perfect world if they could get another 3 clubs in and get the fixture list better sorted they could gradually progress. Appreciate the lack of riders issue but their are newcomers/youngsters out there its just having something to tempt them over with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago In this day of potential financial hardship for many, going to speedway every week could be hard to do. I've been saying for ages speedway should be like other sports where one week you are home the next away, so you will have 2-3 meetings at home every month, that's enough to fit fixtures in from late March to August, play offs in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted 59 minutes ago Report Share Posted 59 minutes ago 2 hours ago, TigerIain said: Don't kid yourself that promoting speedway in a big city is any easier. The problems might be slightly different but still just as big. Glasgow news (not just sports news) is Dominated by Rangers and Celtic. Then the sports news has everything about the rest of Scottish football, all the English football, the European football, then whatever sport has is major event (Ryder Cup, Olympics, Wimbledon, Snooker World Champs), then Glasgow Warriors and Scotland rugby, then global sports like F1, golf, tennis, then there is just a tiny bit of space left for teams like Caledonia Gladiators (basketball), Glasgow Clan (ice hockey) and the Tigers to fight over. Then factor in other things like the huge live music scene in the city competing for news space and fans money. The Facennas have put a lot of time, money and effort into trying to promote the Tigers in Glasgow but it's hard to be heard. So whilst they might have a big catchment area, they have problems fighting with the other sports and everything else for column inches. I reckon 3/4s of the city population have still never heard of speedway and half the test don't know about the Tigers. NB none of this is a criticism of the Glasgow (or any other) promotion. I've seen some of the hard work the Facennas have done with billboards in the city centre, mutual publicity tie ins with rugby and ice hockey, and at running races and other events, free tickets for new fans. Can remember mr beaton at shawfield saying bigger crowds ment bigger bills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted 43 minutes ago Report Share Posted 43 minutes ago 58 minutes ago, Neila said: In this day of potential financial hardship for many, going to speedway every week could be hard to do. I've been saying for ages speedway should be like other sports where one week you are home the next away, so you will have 2-3 meetings at home every month, that's enough to fit fixtures in from late March to August, play offs in September. Two home two away may not affect us so much at Poole, but it would certainly affect the smaller clubs , with the financial situation as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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