Aries Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 Not sure I agree with “there’s no chance Ipswich or Leicester should be above this Kings Lynn septet” comment. I always thought there was very little between the three of them. All three have weaknesses in different areas of the team. From an Ipswich perspective, we’ve made a cup final and sit in a play off place with our senior reserve contributing next to nothing. Bangs was supposed to be our “trump card” at reserve, he’s been anything but. If he’d scored what was originally hoped, or we’d signed our initial target (Thorssell) we’d have been challengers. Lynn always had issues for me. Despite the fanfare around Rushen, he’s still only 16 and was/will have slumps this year. The high average of Fricke left a big problem with a 1-5 rider who Lynn were always going to have to carry, and the biggest mistake of all was re-signing Cook. Everybody saw his “commitment” previously, why on earth would anyone think “yeah we’ll have some more of that”? Poor signing. Lynn, Ipswich and Leicester all look a similar standard to me. Leicester possibly slightly the better of the three as it stands. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 The current promotion have pretty much zero ambition and until that changes Lynn will always be around the bottom of the table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 3 minutes ago, therefused said: The current promotion have pretty much zero ambition and until that changes Lynn will always be around the bottom of the table It needs a complete overhaul, a fresh promotion with different ideas and a different attitude. Until that happens, then I’m afraid you’re right. Fair play to the loyal band of supporters who keep turning up though. They’ve had little to cheer for years, but there remains a decent core of support. The potential is there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 52 minutes ago, therefused said: The current promotion have pretty much zero ambition and until that changes Lynn will always be around the bottom of the table I don't think you sign Fricke if there is 'zero ambition'. Castagna and Cook are the main issues at present along with the track surface, and I suspect there's a culture of everybody turning up on a Monday/Thursday evening and hoping it'll all come together. The whole thing definitely needs some fresh impetus. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 Cook is dire here but a hero in Poland and Kvech is only a bit better. Harris rode last night as though is life was on the line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 2 hours ago, Bagpuss said: I don't think you sign Fricke if there is 'zero ambition'. Castagna and Cook are the main issues at present along with the track surface, and I suspect there's a culture of everybody turning up on a Monday/Thursday evening and hoping it'll all come together. The whole thing definitely needs some fresh impetus. When the team was announced I wasn’t too pleased they had signed Cook and Castagna.Cook let us down big time last year.I always thought where he gates he stays or goes further back.I don't think I have seen him overtake anyone yet in the Stars kevlars.And the signing of Castagna blew my mind,he isn't that good in the Championship. Regards the track,that has been awful the last couple of meetings.Dust from the off and all meeting long.Need to get Buster back on it asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 2 hours ago, Bagpuss said: I don't think you sign Fricke if there is 'zero ambition'. Castagna and Cook are the main issues at present along with the track surface, and I suspect there's a culture of everybody turning up on a Monday/Thursday evening and hoping it'll all come together. The whole thing definitely needs some fresh impetus. It's all dependent on what you view as ambition. This is Speedway. Regardless of who the original septet is, it's irrelevant to ambition. 2-3 injuries / flop performances are highly likely in this game within every team year in year out. A clubs ambition for the season is always only shown by how they cope with adversity. King's Lynn always shows their ambitions year in year out by, if that initial 1-7 doesn't work, it's "oh well, go again next year." There never is any effort to remove poor, underachieving performance from the team. The fact Cook & Castagna can still roll on as they are shows an incredible 'lack of ambition'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: It's all dependent on what you view as ambition. This is Speedway. Regardless of who the original septet is, it's irrelevant to ambition. 2-3 injuries / flop performances are highly likely in this game within every team year in year out. A clubs ambition for the season is always only shown by how they cope with adversity. King's Lynn always shows their ambitions year in year out by, if that initial 1-7 doesn't work, it's "oh well, go again next year." There never is any effort to remove poor, underachieving performance from the team. The fact Cook & Castagna can still roll on as they are shows an incredible 'lack of ambition'. To be fair to Buster... A lack of ambition to win what exactly?.. The only "prize" appears to be a couple of extra home meetings which should deliver a few hundred more fans... KL seems to get OK crowds each season regardless of performances, so spending more money won't necessarily mean more fans to justify the cost... Has KL got the F1 World Stox Championship this season? As that will certainly bring a decent amount in to support any Speedway costs... Edited June 23 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: It's all dependent on what you view as ambition. This is Speedway. Regardless of who the original septet is, it's irrelevant to ambition. 2-3 injuries / flop performances are highly likely in this game within every team year in year out. A clubs ambition for the season is always only shown by how they cope with adversity. King's Lynn always shows their ambitions year in year out by, if that initial 1-7 doesn't work, it's "oh well, go again next year." There never is any effort to remove poor, underachieving performance from the team. The fact Cook & Castagna can still roll on as they are shows an incredible 'lack of ambition'. I agree they both need replacing imo.But you saying Lynn showing lack of ambition in replacing riders again i agree,but then you say there is no one in the Championship of note who could replace Castagna and no stand out foreigner neither,what would you suggest then to replace Castagna to show ambition as you said there is no one. Edit:Coopers average changes on the 29th which takes the team average well above the 37pt mark.So make a change now imo. Edited June 23 by tellboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 1 minute ago, tellboy said: I agree they both need replacing imo.But you saying Lynn showing lack of ambition in replacing riders again i agree,but then you say there is no one in the Championship of note who could replace Castagna and no stand out foreigner neither,what would you suggest then to replace Castagna to show ambition as you said there is no one. That's not mine, yours or any fan to find out. That is exactly what the management team should be doing. Club's with that winning mentality always manage to find someone. At reserve, just find someone that's a terrific gater. Someone whose willing to be a roadblock is great for the team even if they end up scoring 1s & 0s. Being able to gate and getting their teammate to the front is a winner compared to right now. Sometimes, someone who scores 2 can be better for the team than a 4 average rider that blocks his teammate. A bit of thought & knowledge and that rider can be found. As I say, other teams always manage to find that someone to fill spaces, regardless of averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 4 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: That's not mine, yours or any fan to find out. That is exactly what the management team should be doing. Club's with that winning mentality always manage to find someone. At reserve, just find someone that's a terrific gater. Someone whose willing to be a roadblock is great for the team even if they end up scoring 1s & 0s. Being able to gate and getting their teammate to the front is a winner compared to right now. Sometimes, someone who scores 2 can be better for the team than a 4 average rider that blocks his teammate. A bit of thought & knowledge and that rider can be found. As I say, other teams always manage to find that someone to fill spaces, regardless of averages. Filip Sitera then😆,or Kevin Brice🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted June 23 Author Report Share Posted June 23 6 hours ago, Bagpuss said: I don't think you sign Fricke if there is 'zero ambition'. Castagna and Cook are the main issues at present along with the track surface, and I suspect there's a culture of everybody turning up on a Monday/Thursday evening and hoping it'll all come together. The whole thing definitely needs some fresh impetus. Don't think it was ambition in all fairness. Fricke didn't have anywhere else to go at the time because Ipswich and Northampton left it far too late. Not trolling here but maybe Max is trying to get his average down this season so he doesn't end up at Lynn again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 19 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: That's not mine, yours or any fan to find out. That is exactly what the management team should be doing. Club's with that winning mentality always manage to find someone. At reserve, just find someone that's a terrific gater. Someone whose willing to be a roadblock is great for the team even if they end up scoring 1s & 0s. Being able to gate and getting their teammate to the front is a winner compared to right now. Sometimes, someone who scores 2 can be better for the team than a 4 average rider that blocks his teammate. A bit of thought & knowledge and that rider can be found. As I say, other teams always manage to find that someone to fill spaces, regardless of averages. Simon Lambert it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 1 hour ago, TTT said: Don't think it was ambition in all fairness. Fricke didn't have anywhere else to go at the time because Ipswich and Northampton left it far too late. Not trolling here but maybe Max is trying to get his average down this season so he doesn't end up at Lynn again? If he can’t do what he was meant to do Lynn won’t want him back either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 Anyone know anything about Kevin Juhl Pedersen?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youhave2minutes Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 16 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Anyone know anything about Kevin Juhl Pedersen?? He’s a young Dane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheDeepStuff Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 With Cook in UK you know what you’re getting 10 yards after the tapes have gone up. If it’s a flat slick surface he’s quick anything else bang average at best, thing is at King’s Lynn he’s seems to not be be big enough/strong enough to dominate the bike, whereas at likes of NSS he where it’s generally smooth and slick he’s fine. Can see him back there in 2027 on his lowered average instead of Blodorn to bulk up their Aussie connection 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheDeepStuff Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 With Cook in UK you know what you’re getting 10 yards after the tapes have gone up. If it’s a flat slick surface he’s quick anything else bang average at best, thing is at King’s Lynn he’s seems to not be be big enough/strong enough to dominate the bike, whereas at likes of NSS he where it’s generally smooth and slick he’s fine. Can see him back there in 2027 on his lowered average instead of Blodorn to bulk up their Aussie connection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 10 hours ago, Aries said: It needs a complete overhaul, a fresh promotion with different ideas and a different attitude. Until that happens, then I’m afraid you’re right. Fair play to the loyal band of supporters who keep turning up though. They’ve had little to cheer for years, but there remains a decent core of support. The potential is there. Usual problem though with a speedway team these days you would struggle to give it away if you wanted out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 6 hours ago, tellboy said: When the team was announced I wasn’t too pleased they had signed Cook and Castagna.Cook let us down big time last year.I always thought where he gates he stays or goes further back.I don't think I have seen him overtake anyone yet in the Stars kevlars.And the signing of Castagna blew my mind,he isn't that good in the Championship. Regards the track,that has been awful the last couple of meetings.Dust from the off and all meeting long.Need to get Buster back on it asap. Such a shame re the track when I used to go to Lynn 85-93 it served up brilliant racing but its seems its dire these days listening to current fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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