Speedway AGM

[Triple.H.]

Why not have a ruling that Good Friday is the start of the season which would lose a couple of potentially wet or chilly meetings at the start of the season.

Riders missing due to various World and European Championship meetings can only have a guest replacement for the day of that meeting. 

Otherwise you run with RR or an NDL level rider who doesn't ride for any other team.

Riders who are fit enough to ride abroad but not here, such as Ben Cook this year only RR or NDL guest.

 

[piston197]

24 minutes ago, Triple.H. said:

Why not have a ruling that Good Friday is the start of the season which would lose a couple of potentially wet or chilly meetings at the start of the season.

Riders missing due to various World and European Championship meetings can only have a guest replacement for the day of that meeting. 

Otherwise you run with RR or an NDL level rider who doesn't ride for any other team.

Riders who are fit enough to ride abroad but not here, such as Ben Cook this year only RR or NDL guest.

 

A date would be required rather than a holy festival, good Friday this year will be April 3rd, at other years it can be as early as 20th March and as late as April 23rd, as it is chosen by an antiquated formula designed years ago by the church

[YeOldPitGate]

5 hours ago, Neila said:

Part of me gets this, but as you know most promotions are only breaking even at the very best, look at Plymouth the boss has stated he has lost 350k over 7 years !!!  So if 2H 2A that's potentially more money for the clubs to lose, but if it stays 1H 1A more clubs may stand s chance of breaking even via help from sponsorship 

Christ that's almost Tolley like figures, I wonder how much of the £350k loss was racked up in the year they had Crump and Pederson

[Triple.H.]

Just now, piston197 said:

A date would be required rather than a holy festival, good Friday this year will be April 3rd, at other years it can be as early as 20th March and as late as April 23rd, as it is chosen by an antiquated formula designed years ago by the church

I know it moves about, and why does it have to be a date, why not a day ? The next few years it's late March to mid April, so why not try it, not for 1 season but for 3 or 4 to see if it changes anything, if it doesn't then try something else.

Just about every fan moans because theyre stood around in the cold, 2/3 week gaps between meetings in the height of summer and the season dragging on too long. 

[SteelShoe]

8 hours ago, crescent girl said:

Not his money though, is it?

No it isn't and I'm sure this is a factor.

With one league there would be enough fixtures to keep fans happy as well as riders who do not regularly have a Premiership/Championship club. It will also be a lower financial burden for promoters than 2H2A.

[SteelShoe]

6 hours ago, Neila said:

Part of me gets this, but as you know most promotions are only breaking even at the very best, look at Plymouth the boss has stated he has lost 350k over 7 years !!!  So if 2H 2A that's potentially more money for the clubs to lose, but if it stays 1H 1A more clubs may stand s chance of breaking even via help from sponsorship 

This just reinforces the need for change to the cost structure of the sport. For example why should promoters be liable for supplying riders tyres fuel and oil ?  . Such things are hard to understand bearing in mind the attendances at many tracks.  

[The White Knight]

4 hours ago, Marky_Mark said:

How about bringing the end of the season forward to ensure regular weekly fixtures through the summer when the kids are off and people are on holiday …… and avoid all the rain offs at the end of the season 

Getting rid of the 'Pay Offs' would assist in this.

What the hell do you want 'Play Offs' for when there are only five Teams in the League? It makes the Sport look more 'Mickey Mouse' than it is at the moment.

I love Speedway, but I am finding it hard at the moment. I am looking for a future, but sadly, there is not much encouragement down the line.

I don't really know how it got this bad.

[dellbob]

No support no money no speedway it is plain and simple mathematics 

Everyone can presume this and that 

But it is MONEY would you run at a loss every season ?????

Answers on a postcard please !!!!

[Sir Sidney]

25 minutes ago, dellbob said:

No support no money no speedway it is plain and simple mathematics 

Everyone can presume this and that 

But it is MONEY would you run at a loss every season ?????

Answers on a postcard please !!!!

Many sports and sporting clubs do. The losses in Premiership rugby for example are eye watering, and yet they continue 

[Bandit59]

6 hours ago, Normski said:

I know last season Berwick had a 5 week gap

That was ridiculous 

[Sadman]

1 hour ago, SteelShoe said:

This just reinforces the need for change to the cost structure of the sport. For example why should promoters be liable for supplying riders tyres fuel and oil ?  . Such things are hard to understand bearing in mind the attendances at many tracks.  

Riders could dope there own fuel, alter tyers (saftey). Makes a level playing field.

[Fromafar]

4 hours ago, Triple.H. said:

Why not have a ruling that Good Friday is the start of the season which would lose a couple of potentially wet or chilly meetings at the start of the season.

Riders missing due to various World and European Championship meetings can only have a guest replacement for the day of that meeting. 

Otherwise you run with RR or an NDL level rider who doesn't ride for any other team.

Riders who are fit enough to ride abroad but not here, such as Ben Cook this year only RR or NDL guest.

 

Riders are dictating the sport in GB.Time to address this once and for all.Guesting,not available due to riding abroad etc.Want their cake and eat it.

Edited yesterday at 07:46 PM by Fromafar

[mikebv]

1 hour ago, The White Knight said:

Getting rid of the 'Pay Offs' would assist in this.

What the hell do you want 'Play Offs' for when there are only five Teams in the League? It makes the Sport look more 'Mickey Mouse' than it is at the moment.

I love Speedway, but I am finding it hard at the moment. I am looking for a future, but sadly, there is not much encouragement down the line.

I don't really know how it got this bad.

Pretty clear to be honest how It got this bad...

Year on year, keeping using an unfit for purpose, failing operational and business model was a key fundamental...

As was not listening to thousands of disenfranchised customers, over the past two decades in particular, who refused to keep paying for what they were being served up..

 

[dellbob]

50 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said:

Many sports and sporting clubs do. The losses in Premiership rugby for example are eye watering, and yet they continue 

Would you run at a loss i certainly wouldn't 

Needs a total revamp to survive that's the harsh fact here 

[arnieg]

1 hour ago, Sir Sidney said:

Many sports and sporting clubs do. The losses in Premiership rugby for example are eye watering, and yet they continue 

I went to a Premiership rugby match and within a year BOTH teams had gone bust.

[SteelShoe]

32 minutes ago, Sadman said:

Riders could dope there own fuel, alter tyers (saftey). Makes a level playing field.

Certified fuel on sale at the track and tyre inspections pre meeting.

[Tosh1218]

Can anyone clarify do BSN pay a fee for been on there and do clubs receive this .
As I believe over the last few years away following is down in numbers  at all tracks and I believe BSN might have something to do with this .

For example a family of 4 travel from Workington  travel to Redcar . They have fuel to pay , two adult pay entrance price and two children  free of  charge .They spend money on raffle tickets , food and drinks for the family etc.

in today’s prices they could spend approximately £100 on there night out at the speedway  . we’re on BSN for a stand alone fixture it’s  £15 to watch it ?

Do Redcar receive a fee  from BSN  as I’m curious this is why attendance’s are down at a lot of tracks at Championship level .Would love people’s opinions thanks in advance.

[Fromafar]

6 minutes ago, Tosh1218 said:

Can anyone clarify do BSN pay a fee for been on there and do clubs receive this .
As I believe over the last few years away following is down in numbers  at all tracks and I believe BSN might have something to do with this .

For example a family of 4 travel from Workington  travel to Redcar . They have fuel to pay , two adult pay entrance price and two children  free of  charge .They spend money on raffle tickets , food and drinks for the family etc.

in today’s prices they could spend approximately £100 on there night out at the speedway  . we’re on BSN for a stand alone fixture it’s  £15 to watch it ?

Do Redcar receive a fee  from BSN  as I’m curious this is why attendance’s are down at a lot of tracks at Championship level .Would love people’s opinions thanks in advance.

Pretty sure Clubs receive a fee from BSN.

Cant understand why Clubs streaming their Matches don’t Charge Full Admission Prices to watch .It does  not make sense to watch cheaper from home.Plus there losing out on the family coming in some cases.

 

[AndiCapp]

Streaming is becoming the new doubling up rule. If you love the sport follow your side home and away and spend money that way.

[Neila]

41 minutes ago, Tosh1218 said:

Can anyone clarify do BSN pay a fee for been on there and do clubs receive this .
As I believe over the last few years away following is down in numbers  at all tracks and I believe BSN might have something to do with this .

For example a family of 4 travel from Workington  travel to Redcar . They have fuel to pay , two adult pay entrance price and two children  free of  charge .They spend money on raffle tickets , food and drinks for the family etc.

in today’s prices they could spend approximately £100 on there night out at the speedway  . we’re on BSN for a stand alone fixture it’s  £15 to watch it ?

Do Redcar receive a fee  from BSN  as I’m curious this is why attendance’s are down at a lot of tracks at Championship level .Would love people’s opinions thanks in advance.

Think for the individual club streams a third goes to the stream provider, third to the club and a third goes to the BSPL that's on top of the provider buying a licence to film meetings. Don't know the financial parts for BSN