topaz325 Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 21 hours ago, ouch said: No, my argument is the fact we put an individual meeting on with a fabulous line up and people comment negatively about the bleedin podium. A podium that does exactly what it should do. 1,2,3 & sponsors backdrop for photos. Anything other than that is personal preference or more likely a bias against all things Belle Vue. We’re not going to stop pushing on so there will be plenty more for you guys to feed on. Podium, I still can’t believe it. What to you aspect from a Manchester podium, Sydney Opera House, perhaps? The Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeests sweeping majestically across the plain”. Don’t mention the war I did but I think I got away with it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Maybe we could build a podium out of the buy,a brick wall, it would give me something else to bang my head against while you continue to miss the point The "optics" are fundamentally important for any business... UK Speedway sadly is ran, in the main, by ex riders, and friends and sponsors of riders... With well meaning amateur Speedway enthusiasts working for free, alongside them, just so as they can be close to their heroes... Professional Event Management, and Professional Marketing, is a huge opportunity, however, as we know, their huge seven figures outlay will be to riders who are practically unknown to 80 million people... An amazing business plan... Which suggest these ex riders, and rider sponsors, are quite happy with their regular "Social Gatherings" where they meet up for a "Night at the Speedway".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Maybe we could build a podium out of the buy,a brick wall, it would give me something else to bang my head against while you continue to miss the point The point isn’t being missed at all. You don’t like the podium and I do so it’s just a matter of opinion not right or wrong. If the third step was missing, that’s obviously wrong and not fit for purpose. This podium has been used successfully for a decade at the PCMT and the attendance has remained strong over that period which indicates the podium along with other aspects of the “first impression” have had no negative impact on the customer experience. Seemingly a bitter pill for some to acknowledge as they continue to unfairly nitpick the minutiae of the sport whilst completely letting the big issues sail by. When reading this site it’s little wonder we are where we are with fans & ex riders running the sport. Nice pop at the brick in the wall fundraising that helped when we built the NSS, keep ‘em coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 31 minutes ago, mikebv said: The "optics" are fundamentally important for any business....... Optics are the very things that form people’s perception, often they don’t even have to be real, they can just a show but when you’re trying to attract new people to the sport optics are often their first trigger leading on to their intrigue, ouch can’t seem to understand this as he is so stuck in his own world of what he does or doesn’t like about speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 47 minutes ago, ouch said: The point isn’t being missed at all. You don’t like the podium and I do so it’s just a matter of opinion not right or wrong. If the third step was missing, that’s obviously wrong and not fit for purpose. This podium has been used successfully for a decade at the PCMT and the attendance has remained strong over that period which indicates the podium along with other aspects of the “first impression” have had no negative impact on the customer experience. Seemingly a bitter pill for some to acknowledge as they continue to unfairly nitpick the minutiae of the sport whilst completely letting the big issues sail by. When reading this site it’s little wonder we are where we are with fans & ex riders running the sport. Nice pop at the brick in the wall fundraising that helped when we built the NSS, keep ‘em coming. Yet again you have missed the point, it doesn’t matter what I think of the podium or belle vue or whatever it is,,it’s what potential folk who see speedway maybe for the first time,going forward I’m not the potential market and neither are you,my family is on that wall and I’ve ridden for belle vue and my Mrs and lad have a BV season ticket and I’ve worked tirelessly for 30 years trying to change the sport at different positions and habe had a go at just about every job in my he sport and literally lost £1000s doing it so yes I’m going to have my 10pence worth until the sport finally realises it’s in the wrong path and need to address the little things first like the optics Edited 7 hours ago by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Yet again you have missed the point, it doesn’t matter what I think of the podium or belle vue or whatever it is,,it’s what potential folk who see speedway maybe for the first time,going forward I’m not the potential market and neither are you,my family is on that wall and I’ve ridden for belle vue and my Mrs and lad have a BV season ticket and I’ve worked tirelessly for 30 years trying to change the sport at different positions and habe had a go at just about every job in my he sport and literally lost £1000s doing it so yes I’m going to have my 10pence worth until the sport finally realises it’s in the wrong path and need to address the little things first like the optics I understand the point you are making Dean, and there are hundreds of small (and large) things that all British clubs could do to improve the whole event. That said, picking on the podium at Belle Vue is diluting the value of your point in my view. The podium will be a long way from the first thing people see at Belle Vue, and they might well be impressed by their entrance to the stadium, certainly from the main grandstand side would think that is a more impressive first impression than any other British speedway track. Anyone sitting on that side of the stadium would be very unlikely to see any issues with the front of the podium as the construction of it is not apparent front on. I suspect that in the South stand a newby is more likely to comment on the toilets and catering if anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 52 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said: I understand the point you are making Dean, and there are hundreds of small (and large) things that all British clubs could do to improve the whole event. That said, picking on the podium at Belle Vue is diluting the value of your point in my view. The podium will be a long way from the first thing people see at Belle Vue, and they might well be impressed by their entrance to the stadium, certainly from the main grandstand side would think that is a more impressive first impression than any other British speedway track. Anyone sitting on that side of the stadium would be very unlikely to see any issues with the front of the podium as the construction of it is not apparent front on. I suspect that in the South stand a newby is more likely to comment on the toilets and catering if anything. Firstly it wasn’t me who mentioned the podium it was MikeBV talking about his son, I just quoted him and I can remember last year someone making a post about it on FB but it isn’t about the podium it’s about all the unnecessary little things, the podium just happens to be one of them and it’s so unnecessary and cheap to fix ,your later point is valid about them entering the stadium but I’m talking about people who may see it on tv or on YouTube or wherever as their first impression, something I saw a couple of years back on tv was I think the speedway of nations and everytime the camera panned round to the pits there were around 30 people who were standing around talking or drinking tea and it looked like a branch of primark, totally unprofessional and shambolic so I messaged the promotion and FIM and told them and the next day there was nobody standing there in the pits, it’s the little things that matter, I understand the sport hasn’t got a pot to piss in but a lot of little things cost peanuts Edited 5 hours ago by THE DEAN MACHINE 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 3 hours ago Only about 10 people saw the podium anyway. And it's not like they just get them to stand on pallets. The pallets get decorated and for me. Looks alright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 30 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: Only about 10 people saw the podium anyway. And it's not like they just get them to stand on pallets. The pallets get decorated and for me. Looks alright The pallets were covered in some kind of artificial grass... When my lad mentioned them my OCD, hardened by 39 years in retail leadership, kicked in, and I started to analyse them closely.... Whereby, I noticed they were different colours... Those 39 years in the retail game, where first and lasting impressions count for so much, made me come to the conclusion that, for the next time, (the GP's?), the pallets should all be painted Gold, Silver and Bronze... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 10 minutes ago, mikebv said: The pallets were covered in some kind of artificial grass... When my lad mentioned them my OCD, hardened by 39 years in retail leadership, kicked in, and I started to analyse them closely.... Whereby, I noticed they were different colours... Those 39 years in the retail game, where first and lasting impressions count for so much, made me come to the conclusion that, for the next time, (the GP's?), the pallets should all be painted Gold, Silver and Bronze... Which shop did you work in and was it in our home town of Stockport as if so I probably frequented it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, ouch said: Which shop did you work in and was it in our home town of Stockport as if so I probably frequented it? I started off in Stockport in 1986, and then worked all over the UK, from the North of Scotland, to the South Coast of England, with Stockport again being on the list 18 years ago... Got to watch quite a bit of Speedway too on my travels... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 52 minutes ago, mikebv said: The pallets were covered in some kind of artificial grass... When my lad mentioned them my OCD, hardened by 39 years in retail leadership, kicked in, and I started to analyse them closely.... Whereby, I noticed they were different colours... Those 39 years in the retail game, where first and lasting impressions count for so much, made me come to the conclusion that, for the next time, (the GP's?), the pallets should all be painted Gold, Silver and Bronze... I'm intrigued. Which bits were different colours, and where were you watching from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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