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3 hours ago, mikebv said:

It seems to be a view that is a Belle Vue thing ..

It isn't, it is a national event, jointly ran by all the promoters...

It is the BSP as a collective that needs to ensure a decent crowd..

Personally holding an event of a Championship level, at a track that held two GP's quite recently, isn't the best idea for me...,

Even more so when that track is running it's third meeting in less than 3 weeks..

When the British Final ran at Coventry, it was packed, as World Title hopes were on the line, World Class talent was in every race, and Supporters clubs ran coaches from over 30 tracks...

No one relied on Coventry to sell out the event by themselves...

This, if no Dan B is possibly the lowest standard of BF to be held ever...

A tough sell, and one it doesn't look like any promoters around the country have done anything about at their own track...

A coach from each would have got a thousand or so there..

Just to explain how these events work: tracks apply to stage what are called shared events. They will get a staging fee which will be a percentage of the gate receipts plus they will keep proceeds from car park and food and drink outlets if they have control over them. It is therefore in BV’s interests to promote the living daylights out of this event. But will they? Do they normally do any promotion? Radio? TV? Press? Blitzing social media? I have no idea, but then I’m not local

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3 hours ago, RS50 said:

Just checked my EPG for Saturday 7pm. Showing as motorbike show from 7pm to 9pm then football. The programme description does not mention speedway.

This will be updated this evening as it couldn’t be put in EPG until announcement this afternoon otherwise it would have ruined any surprise.

As this has been agreed a while I am unsure why they have waited until 4 days before the event to announce it but hey it’s British Speedway and keep your eyes peeled for more Speedway on tv later in the year 

With regards to presentation this is being done by Emma Jones from SGP  and comms are Kelvin and Olly so should come over well on TV just need more fans to attend 

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1 hour ago, Wee Eck said:

Just to explain how these events work: tracks apply to stage what are called shared events. They will get a staging fee which will be a percentage of the gate receipts plus they will keep proceeds from car park and food and drink outlets if they have control over them. It is therefore in BV’s interests to promote the living daylights out of this event. But will they? Do they normally do any promotion? Radio? TV? Press? Blitzing social media? I have no idea, but then I’m not local

I believe you are preaching to the converted, the problem is ww need to convert the non believers. 

So it doesnt really matter whos ball it is every club in the country needs to do everything to promote the meeting and get people there. 

A live event on terrestrial TV in a fairly empty stadium will not get potential supporters flocking to the turnstiles.

British Speedway needs a hard reset and everyone currently involved from top to bottom needs to get involved. If saturdays meeting is a big success with high viewing figures its a firm foundation to build on. If its a meeting full of delays because theres a queue at the entrance and played out in front of empty stands, then we may as well throw in the towel.

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13 minutes ago, Triple.H. said:

I believe you are preaching to the converted, the problem is ww need to convert the non believers. 

Si itdoesnt really matter whos ball it is every club in the country needs to do everything to promote the meeting and get people there. 

A live event on terrestrial TV in a fairly empty stadium will not get potential supporters flocking to the turnstiles.

British Speedway needs a hard reset and everyone currently involved from top to bottom needs to get involved. If saturdays meeting is a big success with high viewing figures its a firm foundation to build on. If its a meeting full of elats because theres a queue at the entrance and played out in front of empty stands, then we may as well throw in the towel.

Spot on...

It's THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!!!

The flagship of the sport for domestic UK Speedway..

It it looks as if hardly anyone can be arsed to attend this then the competition itself looks irrelevant..

And if the supposed pinnacle prize of the sport in the UK looks irrelevant, then heaven help the league racing...

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1 hour ago, flagrag said:

This will be updated this evening as it couldn’t be put in EPG until announcement this afternoon otherwise it would have ruined any surprise.

As this has been agreed a while I am unsure why they have waited until 4 days before the event to announce it but hey it’s British Speedway and keep your eyes peeled for more Speedway on tv later in the year 

With regards to presentation this is being done by Emma Jones from SGP  and comms are Kelvin and Olly so should come over well on TV just need more fans to attend 

Maybe they didn't announce it earlier just in case fans didn't buy tickets?..

If so, that didn't work out too well did it...?

And if they did that for that reason, it hardly speaks volumes of their own belief in their own product does it..?

Personally, if the tickets sales are poor, then I would close down a third of the Grandstand and put out some huge Aces, and Sponsors flags across the empty seats...

Close up the Grandstand attendees together...

Or just close the South side and let everyone sit down and put the adverts across there, like football does on Champions league nights...

Getting good coverage for the sponsors...

The place needs to look full even if it isn't...

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4 minutes ago, mikebv said:

Spot on...

It's THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!!!

The flagship of the sport for domestic UK Speedway..

It it looks as if hardly anyone can be arsed to attend this then the competition itself looks irrelevant..

And if the supposed pinnacle prize of the sport in the UK looks irrelevant, then heaven help the league racing...

The answer is if those on here still believe the sport has a future in the UK try and get to Belle Vue and if they could simply give tickets away free to attend like Arena Essex did a few years back then who knows how it will look. Pack out the stadium, create the atmosphere and make sure the riders are told to chase every point available and find a sponsor to put up a winners pot that is worth while then you have the making of a show case. At this late stage those outside the sport have not got a clue so it is the best opportunity to go for sh.t or bust. It does not matter at this stage who or what organisation rallies around to make this work, those watching for the first time will not have a clue when it was decided what the winner gets so try and push the boat out and make it happen. All on here know that if speedway is to succeed we owe it to get behind this opportunity . I hate the phrase unprecedented but this is and a chance that may never come the sports way ever again.

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3 hours ago, Wee Eck said:

Just to explain how these events work: tracks apply to stage what are called shared events. They will get a staging fee which will be a percentage of the gate receipts plus they will keep proceeds from car park and food and drink outlets if they have control over them. It is therefore in BV’s interests to promote the living daylights out of this event. But will they? Do they normally do any promotion? Radio? TV? Press? Blitzing social media? I have no idea, but then I’m not local

No other track wants it, it loses money. 

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1 hour ago, mikebv said:

Maybe they didn't announce it earlier just in case fans didn't buy tickets?..

If so, that didn't work out too well did it...?

And if they did that for that reason, it hardly speaks volumes of their own belief in their own product does it..?

Personally, if the tickets sales are poor, then I would close down a third of the Grandstand and put out some huge Aces, and Sponsors flags across the empty seats...

Close up the Grandstand attendees together...

Or just close the South side and let everyone sit down and put the adverts across there, like football does on Champions league nights...

Getting good coverage for the sponsors...

The place needs to look full even if it isn't...

Sit down, no thanks, south stand best place to watch. 

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