YeOldPitGate Posted yesterday at 02:37 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 02:37 PM 1 hour ago, GeneralMelchett said: Absolutely agree there is a recking coming in all manner of sports over funding annual losses! Yep plenty of things from years gone by in the firing line I read a good article on pubs over the weekend , roughly two a day closing in the UK. The writer interviewed a fella who took over a popular pub in his area (Lake District) that had closed pre-covid he took over reigns in 2021 said when he started gas and electric £1,500 was per month he chucked keys in mid 2025 and gas and electric then £3,500 per month. Add in the plus wage going up, employer ni threshold cut , cost of living meaning more people just having a pint and no food or staying at home as the ex landlord said "covid got us all into the mindset of staying at home more". One of my richest friends owns a pub locally turns over a million a year but still loses money, luckily he can use the old trick of offsetting the losses against his other business which is an absolute cash cow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago 4 hours ago, SteveLyric2 said: Interesting (for some) to note that Lawson retains the Number 1 race jacket for Ippo in the September averages There weren't likely to be major changes - the Witches rode only four league fixtures between 24 July and 23 August. If Ipswich decide to dispense with Lawson's services, would they be eligible for a facility? There's something in the Regs about a rider in dispute with their club, but not (as far as I can see) about a club releasing a rider ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted 20 hours ago Report Share Posted 20 hours ago 5 hours ago, SteveLyric2 said: Interesting (for some) to note that Lawson retains the Number 1 race jacket for Ippo in the September averages It’s not the amount of points scored that is the problem. It’s the late arrivals missing track walks and parades. Not going for victory laps when asked. Dirty bikes and twice just not turning up giving very little notice. Michael lee was more reliable. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phannan Posted 20 hours ago Report Share Posted 20 hours ago 32 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: It’s not the amount of points scored that is the problem. It’s the late arrivals missing track walks and parades. Not going for victory laps when asked. Dirty bikes and twice just not turning up giving very little notice. Michael lee was more reliable. Michael Lee had the class on the track to help in forgiving any misdemeanours. Lawson obviously can’t be ars*d in better company. As Poole fans are quick to say , he’s not a problem for them . But then he wouldn’t be with the mediocrity he races against in that competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago 25 minutes ago, Phannan said: Michael Lee had the class on the track to help in forgiving any misdemeanours. Lawson obviously can’t be ars*d in better company. As Poole fans are quick to say , he’s not a problem for them . But then he wouldn’t be with the mediocrity he races against in that competition. By 'mediocrity' do you mean most of the riders who ride in both leagues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phannan Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago 25 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: By 'mediocrity' do you mean most of the riders who ride in both leagues? The other 5 teams in the premiership have around 3 riders who don’t double up and more than hold their own over in Poland. That’s what I mean. The championship on the other hand , different story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, Phannan said: The other 5 teams in the premiership have around 3 riders who don’t double up and more than hold their own over in Poland. That’s what I mean. The championship on the other hand , different story Leicester have 6 Championship riders; BV 4; Ippo 5; Sheffield 5; Kl 4; Foxes 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phannan Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago 9 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: Leicester have 6 Championship riders; BV 4; Ippo 5; Sheffield 5; Kl 4; Foxes 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phannan Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: Leicester have 6 Championship riders; BV 4; Ippo 5; Sheffield 5; Kl 4; Foxes 4 Other than Leicester then and obviously Ipswich, the others have at least two riders who don’t race in the championship and therefore only at an higher level. If Lawson races against these two riders in separate races , that’s half his programmed rides for the meeting against higher than championship opposition. That’s all I’m trying to say . Big fish in a small pond in the championship. Edited 17 hours ago by Phannan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 35 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: Leicester have 6 Championship riders; BV 4; Ippo 5; Sheffield 5; Kl 4; Foxes 4 Interesting that Lawson has probably dropped the most points off his average than any other Poole rider this season. Thinking about it most if not all of the others have upped theirs.He started on 9.58, and has so far averaged just 8.10 so far this season. Could be he is around 40 now though, and on the slide. Edited 17 hours ago by Bald Bloke Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 35 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Interesting that Lawson has probably dropped the most points off his average than any other Poole rider this season. Thinking about it most if not all of the others have upped theirs.He started on 9.58, and has so far averaged just 8.10 so far this season. Could be he is around 40 now though, and on the slide. 9.2 with bonus points... With age comes experience..... Edited 16 hours ago by mikebv 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 12 hours ago, Racin Jason 72 said: It’s not the amount of points scored that is the problem. It’s the late arrivals missing track walks and parades. Not going for victory laps when asked. Dirty bikes and twice just not turning up giving very little notice. Michael lee was more reliable. That's harsh on Lawson as a Lynn supporter back in the day Lee was truly terrible for reliability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 19 minutes ago, YeOldPitGate said: That's harsh on Lawson as a Lynn supporter back in the day Lee was truly terrible for reliability. And a much bigger name, meaning many of the crowd would have turned up specifically because he was (supposed to be) there... Arriving a bit late, with bikes not spotlessly clean, isn't anywhere near the level of Michael Lee in his heyday of absences... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 11 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Interesting that Lawson has probably dropped the most points off his average than any other Poole rider this season. Thinking about it most if not all of the others have upped theirs.He started on 9.58, and has so far averaged just 8.10 so far this season. Could be he is around 40 now though, and on the slide. 10 hours ago, mikebv said: 9.2 with bonus points... With age comes experience..... Finished last season on 10.49 with bonus points, 9.83 without. Very experienced is Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Bald Bloke said: Finished last season on 10.49 with bonus points, 9.83 without. Very experienced is Richard Saving a good few quid on a jet washer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, mikebv said: And a much bigger name, meaning many of the crowd would have turned up specifically because he was (supposed to be) there... Arriving a bit late, with bikes not spotlessly clean, isn't anywhere near the level of Michael Lee in his heyday of absences... Yep I started going late 84 and from memory Lee made comeback 1985 the odd flashes of his brilliance seem to remember he beat peak Gunderson on his first meeting back but after that his reliability was dreadful probably not helped by us having a super weak team at the time either. Edited 4 hours ago by YeOldPitGate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted 4 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 3 hours ago, mikebv said: And a much bigger name, meaning many of the crowd would have turned up specifically because he was (supposed to be) there... Arriving a bit late, with bikes not spotlessly clean, isn't anywhere near the level of Michael Lee in his heyday of absences... Martin Rogers' book from the 1980's when he first emigrated is a fascinating read and covers Michael Lee and all the baggage which came with him really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeOldPitGate Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: Martin Rogers' book from the 1980's when he first emigrated is a fascinating read and covers Michael Lee and all the baggage which came with him really well. Whats the title of it Bagpuss ? I am off on a cruise next week and have Simmo's book to read whilst on board I can't wait to read about his and Bill Barkers fall out, I'm pretty sure 90% of the blame would be down to Simmo but I dare say Bill will be painted as the villan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted 58 minutes ago Author Report Share Posted 58 minutes ago 1 hour ago, YeOldPitGate said: Whats the title of it Bagpuss ? I am off on a cruise next week and have Simmo's book to read whilst on board I can't wait to read about his and Bill Barkers fall out, I'm pretty sure 90% of the blame would be down to Simmo but I dare say Bill will be painted as the villan. In My View. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted 57 minutes ago Author Report Share Posted 57 minutes ago 1 hour ago, YeOldPitGate said: Whats the title of it Bagpuss ? I am off on a cruise next week and have Simmo's book to read whilst on board I can't wait to read about his and Bill Barkers fall out, I'm pretty sure 90% of the blame would be down to Simmo but I dare say Bill will be painted as the villan. In My View. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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