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3 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

This is why I detest guests; Fricke and Cook could in theory help Sheffield pip Lynn to 4th.

A perfectly acceptable situation....:D

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1 minute ago, The Third Man said:

Trust Sheffield to be the first team to use guests this season

As everyone knows, Guests are a "necessary evil", and Speedway simply couldn't run within a team framework without the Guest Rider system...

It would clearly be absolutely impossible to run Speedway as a team sport if they didn't share around each others riders every week on a horses for courses adhoc basis...

The top tier in the UK only has six teams, compared to Poland, Sweden and Denmark who have eight teams in theirs...

And the UK's top tier will use not far off 100 guests, once more, this season, to ensure the season gets completed..

The other three leagues, with two more teams in each, must use well over 100 I would think to complete theirs...

Put simply, there is absolutely, 100%, no other way of running Speedway as a team sport.. ;)

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37 minutes ago, The Third Man said:

Trust Sheffield to be the first team to use guests this season

You've completely and utterly missed the point! Guesting for a rival compromises the integrity of the competition.

I have no issue with Sheffield, more with the system, my own club and the two riders. I don't imagine Fricke is bothered either way as he'll guest for Sheffield if Lynn don't make it.

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2 hours ago, mikebv said:

As everyone knows, Guests are a "necessary evil", and Speedway simply couldn't run within a team framework without the Guest Rider system...

It would clearly be absolutely impossible to run Speedway as a team sport if they didn't share around each others riders every week on a horses for courses adhoc basis...

The top tier in the UK only has six teams, compared to Poland, Sweden and Denmark who have eight teams in theirs...

And the UK's top tier will use not far off 100 guests, once more, this season, to ensure the season gets completed..

The other three leagues, with two more teams in each, must use well over 100 I would think to complete theirs...

Put simply, there is absolutely, 100%, no other way of running Speedway as a team sport.. ;)

Sums up succinctly why the sport is not credible in the UK and it needs to reinvent itself and stop pretending that it should be a full time occupation for riders when the club owners treat it as a hobby and it is about time some riders got the message. Most are not good enough to justify it as a full time job where you want to earn over six months an annual salary. Those riders gracing the UK tracks are simply not good enough to qualify as speedway professionals but are OK to race having honed certain skills but that does not justify the riders demands. Go back to part time and stop expecting everyone to owe you a living.

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8 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

This is why I detest guests; Fricke and Cook could in theory help Sheffield pip Lynn to 4th.

Even if Sheffield ran without guests for their remaining 4 meetings they would most likely finish in front of Lynn. The best you can possibly end the season on is 25 points. To do that you have got to beat Leicester home and away, having already lost both legs of the R1 fixtures, and win away at Northampton which you failed to do in R1. Sheffield are on 20 points and more than likely going to take 3 from the Northampton home fixture, and would probably beat Belle Vue at home even if they ran with R/R for Holder.

Having missed the 2022 playoffs through injury, Fricke has obviously decided that he may as well get settled in with his 2026 play off team early to give himself a good chance of a medal. 😉

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Realistically Lynn won't be making the play-offs, but 2 defeats by Sheffield would increase their slim chances.

If I was a Lynn fan, I wouldn't want my riders guesting for a play-offs rival.

If Belle Vue were missing a rider & needed a guest, I'd be encouraging them to score as many as possible!

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