topaz325 Posted yesterday at 01:37 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 01:37 PM "It should be emphasised that any announcements from individual clubs regarding rider signings for 2027 remain subject to approval." From the statement over the postponement of the AGM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted yesterday at 02:25 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 02:25 PM 45 minutes ago, topaz325 said: "It should be emphasised that any announcements from individual clubs regarding rider signings for 2027 remain subject to approval." From the statement over the postponement of the AGM. And from the rest of that statement its clear that the AGM is fairly meaningless when it comes to next year's rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 20 hours ago Report Share Posted 20 hours ago Yet again a reactive statement put out instead of a proactive one, only put out because fans are talking about the AGM being cancelled, irrespective of what it says does it not occur to anyone running speedway to be proactive?? It really doesn’t give us much hope for the future 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago Am I the only one that used to look forward to the AGM to find out all the important stuff for the next season? It was the deadline for teams to declare they were running (Plymouth) it was when the points limit was set and any significant rule changes were announced. It has become clear in recent years that the points limits, at least, have been decided in advance of the AGM. Teams have increasingly announced rider signings ahead of the AGM. Even whole teams have been announced. "Subject to approval" of course. Now we have an official announcement stating, "The meeting, which acts as the formal conclusion of business for the current year" whatever that means followed by further clarification, "The AGM itself does not directly determine the structure of the sport for the following season as discussions regarding 2027 and beyond have been taking place for some time". So the process of control of our sport becomes further clouded in mystery. The lack of transparency is astounding. Well it would be if it hadn't been going on this way, increasingly, over a very long period of time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, False dawn said: Am I the only one that used to look forward to the AGM to find out all the important stuff for the next season? It was the deadline for teams to declare they were running (Plymouth) it was when the points limit was set and any significant rule changes were announced. It has become clear in recent years that the points limits, at least, have been decided in advance of the AGM. Teams have increasingly announced rider signings ahead of the AGM. Even whole teams have been announced. "Subject to approval" of course. Now we have an official announcement stating, "The meeting, which acts as the formal conclusion of business for the current year" whatever that means followed by further clarification, "The AGM itself does not directly determine the structure of the sport for the following season as discussions regarding 2027 and beyond have been taking place for some time". So the process of control of our sport becomes further clouded in mystery. The lack of transparency is astounding. Well it would be if it hadn't been going on this way, increasingly, over a very long period of time. The AGM used to be where many of the following seasons' rules and regs were actually put together.. "Like a bear pit" was one description from an old promoter.. With horse trading going on to get your wish list through, as you might have lined up a great team if the team average selected could only match it... And the AGM was several days to accommodate the agenda... Now much of the work is done throughout the season and the AGM mirrors what an AGM should be, ie a signing off of the previous year, and an inform session to shareholders as to the vision for the next twelve months and beyond... Not an operating model planning session... "Why don't they then put out info to the public as and when things like points limits are agreed through the season?".. I suppose it would be down to how Speedway in the UK is in somewhat of a "parlous state" where teams can, almost in an instant, pull out of the sport, or need to change leagues to keep operating, or even new teams coming in, hence averages would change too. The U21 ruling will no doubt have impacted an already agreed figure for example... Dan T's vlogs mentioned several times that there were "plans for next season" without going into detail, which shows that the planning process is pretty much ongoing and the AGM is nothing more than a communication of them... A much more professional looking set up than it used to be... Making several fundamental major changes for the following March, in November, certainly didn't used to give that professional impression... Edited 7 hours ago by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 44 minutes ago, mikebv said: The AGM used to be where many of the following seasons' rules and regs were actually put together.. "Like a bear pit" was one description from an old promoter.. With horse trading going on to get your wish list through, as you might have lined up a great team if the team average selected could only match it... And the AGM was several days to accommodate the agenda... Now much of the work is done throughout the season and the AGM mirrors what an AGM should be, ie a signing off of the previous year, and an inform session to shareholders as to the vision for the next twelve months and beyond... Not an operating model planning session... "Why don't they then put out info to the public as and when things like points limits are agreed through the season?".. I suppose it would be down to how Speedway in the UK is in somewhat of a "parlous state" where teams can, almost in an instant, pull out of the sport, or need to change leagues to keep operating, or even new teams coming in, hence averages would change too. The U21 ruling will no doubt have impacted an already agreed figure for example... Dan T's vlogs mentioned several times that there were "plans for next season" without going into detail, which shows that the planning process is pretty much ongoing and the AGM is nothing more than a communication of them... A much more professional looking set up than it used to be... Making several fundamental major changes for the following March, in November, certainly didn't used to give that professional impression... Many seem to forget that it's British Speedway Promoters Limited (not Association anymore)! I'm not aware of any other Limited company that shares news about its next year operations with its customers before its AGM. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, SteveLyric2 said: Many seem to forget that it's British Speedway Promoters Limited (not Association anymore)! British Speedway Forum I'm not aware of any other Limited company that shares news about its next year operations with its customers before its AGM. Yes but some Limited companies allow members to vote on issues and changes too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, topaz325 said: Yes but some Limited companies allow members to vote on issues and changes too. What makes you think they haven't? Members are the club's management/promoters not the end-user (customer). For example, retail businesses, shops, supermarkets etc don't ask their customers what products to stock or what price to charge. Other Sports clubs/Associations don't ask which players to sign or what rules they play under. The 2026 Speedway season is barely 2 weeks gone. Clubs need to get their full season financials finalised for the AGM in order to be able to confirm they are running in 2027. Why the rush?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 56 minutes ago, SteveLyric2 said: What makes you think they haven't? Members are the club's management/promoters not the end-user (customer). For example, retail businesses, shops, supermarkets etc don't ask their customers what products to stock or what price to charge. Other Sports clubs/Associations don't ask which players to sign or what rules they play under. The 2026 Speedway season is barely 2 weeks gone. Clubs need to get their full season financials finalised for the AGM in order to be able to confirm they are running in 2027. Why the rush?? Dusk saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted 58 minutes ago Report Share Posted 58 minutes ago 2 hours ago, SteveLyric2 said: What makes you think they haven't? Members are the club's management/promoters not the end-user (customer). For example, retail businesses, shops, supermarkets etc don't ask their customers what products to stock or what price to charge. Other Sports clubs/Associations don't ask which players to sign or what rules they play under. The 2026 Speedway season is barely 2 weeks gone. Clubs need to get their full season financials finalised for the AGM in order to be able to confirm they are running in 2027. Why the rush?? They don't need a fortnight to know they've blown their threepennies but they need to work out how they are going to fund their losses for another season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted 13 minutes ago Report Share Posted 13 minutes ago 42 minutes ago, Byker Biker said: They don't need a fortnight to know they've blown their threepennies but they need to work out how they are going to fund their losses for another season. 3 hours ago, SteveLyric2 said: What makes you think they haven't? Members are the club's management/promoters not the end-user (customer). For example, retail businesses, shops, supermarkets etc don't ask their customers what products to stock or what price to charge. Other Sports clubs/Associations don't ask which players to sign or what rules they play under. The 2026 Speedway season is barely 2 weeks gone. Clubs need to get their full season financials finalised for the AGM in order to be able to confirm they are running in 2027. Why the rush?? Compare Motorbikes Shops mostly stock what customers want . Building society’s for example have member votes agm meetings , yes I agree this is different to sporting clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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