Belle Vue 2027

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2 hours ago, Aries said:

Kurtz 

Brennan

Z Cook

B Cook

Bewley

Don’t think that’s a million miles off 

I can see legs in this thinking as Tom isn’t daft and has almost always driven his career correctly. He just has to look at him and Jason, last season just over half a point separated them whereas now, having gone to separate teams, it’s nearly three points. The wage demands he’s been used to to recently won’t stack up with The Aces but if he sees the bigger picture and he gets offered the opportunity I think we can all agree it’s a no brainer. 

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2 hours ago, Aries said:

Kurtz 

Brennan

Z Cook

B Cook

Bewley

Don’t think that’s a million miles off 

I can see legs in this thinking as Tom isn’t daft and has almost always driven his career correctly. He just has to look at him and Jason, last season just over half a point separated them whereas now, having gone to separate teams, it’s nearly three points. The wage demands he’s been used to to recently won’t stack up with The Aces but if he sees the bigger picture and he gets offered the opportunity I think we can all agree it’s a no brainer. 

[Neila]

22 minutes ago, coldace said:

Klindt and B. Cook make a lot of sense and we would be so strong at home.  Sounds like we may lose Norick, Zak and Tate. Really think keeping at least Norick and Tate would be preferable given the tiem invested in them.  

Don't think zischke is worth the risk on his relavity high average, and not the best gater for many away tracks

[Tinker]

Would much prefer Zach to Ben Cook. Zach has really improved over the last couple of years and I sometimes find myself questioning Ben's comitment. Zach seems a better team man. 

[siggysigalos]

Tom isn't at Belle Vue, but Ben Cook could be, that i certainly can't comment on. Whatever i'm sure as every season Belle Vue will be strong with their usual top 2. I get the Lidsey comments, but i also think he is in elsewhere. As so many are saying, we are guessing, well most of us are guessing, as we don't know how many teams are coming to tapes yet, but Phil is right, if we go to 8 teams, where are the 14 extra riders coming from??

[TTT]

16 minutes ago, siggysigalos said:

Tom isn't at Belle Vue, but Ben Cook could be, that i certainly can't comment on. Whatever i'm sure as every season Belle Vue will be strong with their usual top 2. I get the Lidsey comments, but i also think he is in elsewhere. As so many are saying, we are guessing, well most of us are guessing, as we don't know how many teams are coming to tapes yet, but Phil is right, if we go to 8 teams, where are the 14 extra riders coming from??

Agree.

Probably have to adopt the Danish format with 6 Man Teams to get around it as well as limiting Heat Leaders to an x amount per team in order to share them around?

Edited 14 hours ago by TTT

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22 minutes ago, TTT said:

Agree.

Probably have to adopt the Danish format with 6 Man Teams to get around it as well as limiting Heat Leaders to an x amount per team in order to share them around?

With nearly half of the top nine riders being Belle Vue 2026 riders, I can see us having to release lads once again to bolster our opponents. 

[Bash]

💩 happens

[TTT]

2 hours ago, Tinker said:

Would much prefer Zach to Ben Cook. Zach has really improved over the last couple of years and I sometimes find myself questioning Ben's comitment. Zach seems a better team man. 

I agree but I also think Zach is in the same boat as Musielak now where he's maxed out his GSA tbh (7.35)

I can see Zach spending a year at King's Lynn or Northampton if the points limit isn't 40.00 as I don't see how the Aces can fit both Cook's as well as Kurtz/Bewley in a 38 limit for example.

After Bewley's reduction the 4 riders come to 31.75.

Edited 12 hours ago by TTT

[StarBoy]

31 minutes ago, TTT said:

I agree but I also think Zach is in the same boat as Musielak now where he's maxed out his GSA tbh (7.35)

I can see Zach spending a year at King's Lynn or Northampton if the points limit isn't 40.00 as I don't see how the Aces can fit both Cook's as well as Kurtz/Bewley in a 38 limit for example.

After Bewley's reduction the 4 riders come to 31.75.

Would happily take Zach at Lynn if he was solely coming in to be 3rd heat leader, in a 1-7 similar to below: 

1. Max Fricke - 8.27
2. Tom Brennan - 5.76
3. Zach Cook - 7.35
4. Luke Becker - 6.88
5. Robert Lambert - 7.80
6. Cooper Rushen - any U21
7. Jody Scott - UK U21
Total - 36.06

[Wolfie456]

2 hours ago, TTT said:

Agree.

Probably have to adopt the Danish format with 6 Man Teams to get around it as well as limiting Heat Leaders to an x amount per team in order to share them around?

Denmark is 5 man teams over 14 heats if I remember rightly.

[Aries]

25 minutes ago, Wolfie456 said:

Denmark is 5 man teams over 14 heats if I remember rightly.

Changes to 6 man teams from next year.

[mikebv]

1 hour ago, Aries said:

Changes to 6 man teams from next year.

The two U21 positions they must now have would have influenced that decision I would think..

[YeOldPitGate]

5 hours ago, siggysigalos said:

Tom isn't at Belle Vue, but Ben Cook could be, that i certainly can't comment on. Whatever i'm sure as every season Belle Vue will be strong with their usual top 2. I get the Lidsey comments, but i also think he is in elsewhere. As so many are saying, we are guessing, well most of us are guessing, as we don't know how many teams are coming to tapes yet, but Phil is right, if we go to 8 teams, where are the 14 extra riders coming from??

At the moment I can only think of Becker.

[YeOldPitGate]

3 hours ago, StarBoy said:

Would happily take Zach at Lynn if he was solely coming in to be 3rd heat leader, in a 1-7 similar to below: 

1. Max Fricke - 8.27
2. Tom Brennan - 5.76
3. Zach Cook - 7.35
4. Luke Becker - 6.88
5. Robert Lambert - 7.80
6. Cooper Rushen - any U21
7. Jody Scott - UK U21
Total - 36.06

Take that team all day long.

[Aries]

7 minutes ago, mikebv said:

The two U21 positions they must now have would have influenced that decision I would think..

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