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  1. 10 points
    King's Lynn ARE the reason all this has kicked off. Poole had Ellis and Morris booked as guests for Kurtz. King's Lynn booking Ellis for Monday, although not against the rule, made the sport look a total embarrassment by swapping guests for each leg. If everyone was totally honest with themselves, King's Lynn should have been made to find an alternative guest. Poole should have kept Morris and Ellis. There are other alternatives out there and Poole should have NO blame.  There were alternatives available to King's Lynn, i.e. R/R, Jacob Thorssell, Hans Andersen, Ricky Wells and David Bellego. The first 3 being much clearer options. Stars fans 'disgracing' Poole and it's supporters for it's blinkered views are exactly the same. This whole sorry mess all started from King's Lynn 'disgracing' the sport and we all shouldn't get away from that. Yes there were terrible decisions from the referee in the meeting but these wouldn't have been as bigger issues had King's Lynn not gone 18 points down in the first 5 heats. We displayed an embarrassing start to the meeting. Also, just remember, had Jakobsen been excluded instead of MPT, he was still injured. Had he come out for the rerun as the adrenaline was flowing, 100% would have pulled up in that heat with a broken wrist. Result; 51-38. Although a bit of fighting spirit was shown by King's Lynn mid meeting it was still a pretty abysmal performance. People should wind their necks in, focus on tonight and try to turn this result around fair and square with what we've got. Regardless of whether Ellis and Howarth score 0, King's Lynn need 8+ from all of Jorgensen, Riss and Proctor. Double figures from R.Lambert to be expected and 3-4 from S.Lambert. Any points from Ellis and Howarth should be looked at as a bonus. We have to go into this meeting with our minds set as a 5 man team and our middle order has to be on form. If one of Jorgensen, Riss or Proctor flop, quite frankly we're in the poop and we only have ourselves to blame for the appalling display in the first leg. Fingers crossed all rider's end the night safely, both sets of fans have an enjoyable evening and the world becomes a happy place again. May the best team over the 2 legs win and good luck all
  2. 9 points
    I have blamed Chapman and King's Lynn for deciding to use Ellis when they apparently knew he was going to guest for Poole in the second leg. Not against the rules but only because of the incompetence of those who failed to include the play offs in the rule preventing such an obvious farce in the KO Cup. However, that is only part of what happened. The SCB, BSPA and both teams belatedly but sensibly acknowledged the farce that had been created but then wrongly decided that the answer was to break the rules by allowing Morris to ride for Poole at King's Lynn. That was ridiculous when options within the rules were available to solve the problem. It has made the sport a laughing stock. It is for that decision that all involved are responsible and for which they are rightly being blamed.
  3. 8 points
    King's Lynn ARE the reason all this has kicked off. Poole had Ellis and Morris booked as guests for Kurtz. King's Lynn booking Ellis for Monday, although not against the rule, made the sport look a total embarrassment by swapping guests for each leg. If everyone was totally honest with themselves, King's Lynn should have been made to find an alternative guest. Poole should have kept Morris and Ellis. There are other alternatives out there and Poole should have NO blame. There were alternatives available to King's Lynn, i.e. R/R, Jacob Thorssell, Hans Andersen, Ricky Wells and David Bellego. The first 3 being much clearer options. Stars fans 'disgracing' Poole and it's supporters for it's blinkered views are exactly the same. This whole sorry mess all started from King's Lynn 'disgracing' the sport and we all shouldn't get away from that. Yes there were terrible decisions from the referee in the meeting but these wouldn't have been as bigger issues had King's Lynn not gone 18 points down in the first 5 heats. We displayed an embarrassing start to the meeting. Also, just remember, had Jakobsen been excluded instead of MPT, he was still injured. Had he come out for the rerun as the adrenaline was flowing, 100% would have pulled up in that heat with a broken wrist. Result; 51-38. Although a bit of fighting spirit was shown by King's Lynn mid meeting it was still a pretty abysmal performance. People should wind their necks in, focus on tonight and try to turn this result around fair and square with what we've got. Regardless of whether Ellis and Howarth score 0, King's Lynn need 8+ from all of Jorgensen, Riss and Proctor. Double figures from R.Lambert to be expected and 3-4 from S.Lambert. Any points from Ellis and Howarth should be looked at as a bonus. We have to go into this meeting with our minds set as a 5 man team and our middle order has to be on form. If one of Jorgensen, Riss or Proctor flop, quite frankly we're in the poop and we only have ourselves to blame for the appalling display in the first leg. Fingers crossed all rider's end the night safely, both sets of fans have an enjoyable evening and the world becomes a happy place again. May the best team over the 2 legs win and good luck all
  4. 6 points
    Don't know about bricks, but i was at the stadium this morning and thought i saw a box of these
  5. 6 points
    F2 but they won't give it a serious try. You can fit a 450cc motocross engine (made by all the leading manufacturers) into existing frames and some of them will accept heavier flywheels if necessary. You would have better reliability, longer service intervals and hydraulic clutches that rarely need adjusting or new plates. This country needs to go it alone and forget pandering to the poles etc.
  6. 4 points
    Right here we go, the day has arrived. If we can’t win against all odds then let’s put the wind up this lot and go down fighting. COME ON YOU STARS
  7. 4 points
    Forecast for Sunday looks a lot better both in Workington and Glasgow, maybe an idea to call off Friday and Saturday and run both meetings on Sunday one at 12.00 and the other at 19.00
  8. 3 points
    When you hear reports from tracks saying the largest crowds and income come from dirt track racing then it obviously shows that there are bike fans interested in oval circuit racing as they can relate to the machines. Perhaps the fact these races are over more than 4 laps means better value for money? My sons liked speedway till I took them to a stock car meeting and we all realised it was much better value for money getting between 15 and 20 races with more than 4 competitors racing 20 laps or more. Time to wake up and smell the coffee!!!!
  9. 3 points
    g13 It was a big bad error and the consequences for KL went far beyond it and no question you guys came off very disadvantaged. I suppose the easy answer is oh well it’s speedway but it does not help the showpiece final of a sport that is trying to attract a new and bigger audience. I don’t have the answers but I have a lot of questions for the people who run the Sport and have voiced these in many emails all of which have not even had- a reply. When administrators won’t engage with fans they miss a real opportunity of listening to other views some of which would be well worth looking into. As a business owner I regularly seek the views of my staff and customers to make sure I am not dropping a ball and it’s a great way of keeping things in perspective , speedway has lots of loyal fans and at times it seems that have to put up with what is served up and what is decided by others . All promoters want the best for their teams and will know every possible way of exploiting any loop holes that’s knowing your business perhaps some non promoters and business people and marketers should be invited on to a management committee whose job it is to protect the integrity and future of the sport. Best wishes to both teams tonight may the winner be Speedway
  10. 3 points
    I'm going to ignore all the crap from both sides and simply wish... its a meeting with plenty of good racing no injuries no controversial ref decisions the best team wins I very much doubt all the above will happen but we can hope.
  11. 3 points
    Howarth is illegal. Don’t the rules state that no member of a semi final losing team can guest in the final? OK he’s a wolves rider but rode for Somerset in the semi final at Poole. Plenty of time for Kings Lynn to find someone else.
  12. 3 points
    That was the most sensible and unbiased assessment I have seen over the last couple of days. Well done.
  13. 3 points
    Through all this anti Poole mud slinging I come across a this post that has nailed it perfectly. Well done that man.
  14. 3 points
    They made it clear at the beginning of the season when you applied for your ticket that semis & finals weren't included. How much warning do you need?
  15. 3 points
    I stopped looking at this forum about 15 minutes after the end of the first leg, the usual muppets spouting the usual crap. Its no wonder riders dont bother looking on here. At at the end of the day it’s only racing.
  16. 3 points
    Absolutely nothing at all. It was always a risk running against the same team for three weeks on the trot and so it proved. Should have considered a scheme where if you produced your admission ticket from the first match at the second you got a discount/benefit, produce your admission tickets from the first & second meeting for further discounts/benefits at the third. Doesn't have to be money off at the turnstiles - centre green visits, raffles to present rider of the night, ride with the team on parade vehicle, watch a race from the refs box - things that don't cost the club anything. We were part of the MCN festival for two years running with hundreds of non speedway fans attending each time. Absolutely nothing was done that I'm aware of to interact with these people or to encourage them back. Should have been handing out discount vouchers with fixture lists, organised photograph/autograph sessions, hand out stickers/posters for the kids etc. (Something they could have done in partnership with BSPA as not all people would have been from the Peterborough area). Surprisingly there appears to be a fairly strong fan base at Peterborough and I believe attendances can improve with some effort & promotion of the meetings themselves. Our social media is virtually non existent. Other clubs promote matches by asking for retweets in return for prizes - again the prizes don't need to cost anything, they can be experiences you wouldn't normally get as a fan.
  17. 3 points
    There won't be any post and I certainly won't be congratulating Poole. Of course you will hang on. Pirates will probably also win at Kings Lynn ~ similar to what Coventry did in 2010 in the 2nd leg at Poole. Remember when they won both legs of the play-off final and the management acted like spoilt brats? Some of us never forget so don't expect any congratulations from me because you won't be getting them.
  18. 3 points
    This thread is an embarrassment from most of you to be honest.
  19. 2 points
    Seeing the "Times and Star" clipping that Laura shared on Facebook , I can't believe they are going ahead with a new stadium for the "two biggest" sports in Workington , Reds and Rugby , just casting aside Workington Speedway , its disgraceful, no disrepect to Town and the Red's but surely Workington needs all 3 in the town, considering we probably pulling in the biggest crowd and the most successful this season
  20. 2 points
    The 'Reds' have always used Borough Park.....and the capacity was usually around the 20,000 mark.... But nowadays there is no longer a Main Grandstand, think it might have been taken down due to the Bradford episode..there are a few seats now placed on the 'popular side..ok must be approx 500 if it says so somewhere....(but I've counted them..ha) anyway their placement does considerably take away the standing room on pop side..therefore reducing the overall capacity of the stadium. Back in the day Reds had crowds of five figures versus Carlisle in the league, Notts Forest in FA cup, Chelsea in League Cup..don't recall the Newcastle friendly at all.... .And Worky Town pulled in similar crowds (20,000+) at Borough Park for cup ties versus St.Helens and Warrington. The Derwent Park record is as you say 17,741 (I was there)....even the grassed area of the third and fourth speedway bends was packed...wish we could see similar at DP, for both sports, again.....dream on eh!!!!!!!!!
  21. 2 points
    Probably, but it wouldn’t be as sweet as looking at KL in the rear view mirrors of the van with the trophy on your lap.
  22. 2 points
    Is that speedway fans or tourists, as a fan I would rather watch good racing, than sit in a bar drinking cheap beer debating who gates best. The GP's have lost their way and have become dull and stale, that is why numbers are down.
  23. 2 points
    Thats a riders view, money in the bank with out any concerns about which team wins. Fans have more commitment. It's why league speedway in the UK is on its arse
  24. 2 points
    You start off by giving an opinion and then claim it to be fact. It can't be fact because you can't say with certainty that Tai (who I greatly admire) is better than Brian Crutcher or Jack Parker or others. He can't race them under the conditions that they raced and neither can they race him today. He will certainly be the most successful (I hope) but that isn't necessarily a measure of him being the best.
  25. 2 points
    PROBABLY should ask Eric Boocock and Neil Middleditch whether they agree
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