junior fan 132 Posted July 29, 2016 Great by the aussies but geez what a borefest, what track is the new stadium track based on as i read somewhere they looked at other tracks. Fricke should have been excluded as well, cant believe Tatum actually rode and was half decent by all accounts, but didnt change the result luckily. Junior 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g13webb 4,254 Posted July 30, 2016 As usual, I must be an exception to most, inthat I thoroughly enjoyed the meeting. All those people highlighting, the negative aspects to me, were expecting too much. The meeting reminded me of the many Wembley Finals we saw. The racing was never that good, but the occasion made it special. Had Doyle been performing at Wembley last night he would have been World Champion. His gating and track craft was equal to anyone who won there. Mauger would have been proud to have performed that good. Probably the best five gates in a meeting I've ever seen by anyone. Of all the SGP and SWC I've seen over the years, the real good ones you can count on your fingers. Just because there are top riders, it doesn't guarantee exciting racing. I agree the racing could have been better. But we must remember this is a new venue, and some riders seeing it for the first time. Also the track staff are learning all the time and will no doubt benefit from tonight critiques . I thought it went quite well. We now have a venue of stature , one that will get better in the future, and one we can be proud off...... Let concentrate on the positives for a change..... 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulco 7,075 Posted July 30, 2016 Hope the final is better entertainment than last night's meeting . Thankfully Australia held on and the Joker didn't win the day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted July 30, 2016 Best bit about last night was the meal in the curry mile. What an area like going to another country! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,661 Posted July 30, 2016 For me the main reason the racing was poor was the difference in class of some riders.The USA team were so poor at this level.Also the Russian riders bar Emil were struggling leaving the Aussies and Danes battling it out in most races.Thought Doyle was brilliant but tomorrow is another day and its a much more competitive field. I certainly didn't expect the Aussies to fire like they did and did I hear it correct that the whole team were running PJR engines? It showed if they were. I originally believed GB would be competitive but now not sure as only Woffinden and Cook (I think) use PJR. Lambert will be running the sluggish BAR and no idea what King uses, self tuned in the shed engine maybe. We'll score more than America obviously but Poland, Sweden and Australia have quality top to bottom. I think we'll end up around the 25 point mark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
screm 8,057 Posted July 30, 2016 Sat in the temporary East Stand with no PA so could someone please post the heat times for the meeting. Thanks! Cant help you with race times as I am not paying ten pound for a programme but NKI broke the track record in his first two rides. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OveFundinFan 4,141 Posted July 30, 2016 Best bit about last night was the meal in the curry mile. What an area like going to another country! Did you try them all Steve.??? and £10 for a program.... did the program cover tonights racing as well. £10 for a prog is moe then a bit steep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,191 Posted July 30, 2016 Very poor racing. I'd normal watch the recorded tv show when I got in but instead I cleansed the palate with this year Aces DVDs from the NSS. I blame our promotors as they need to grow a pair and stand up to BSI. It's not enough to say they have hired the place and are running the show as something like last night can reflect badly on The Aces promotion going forward. It takes some doing to produce racing like that at NSS, if they had done nothing after the last match it would have been 100 times better. If we say the track can take rain we mean it and we know what to do. Christ we completely redid the track in 30 mins the other week after severe rain and it was great. The guy roughing up the track did his normal outside run, shouted to the start guys that his finished, they started marking out the gates only for our man to come round a further two times on the inside after being told to do that by a fella at the maintenance gate who stopped him going back in. Give them some cinema tickets for over the road and tell them we'll sort it. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,643 Posted July 30, 2016 Cant help you with race times as I am not paying ten pound for a programme but NKI broke the track record in his first two rides. There was no space in the programme to write the time in anyway! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OveFundinFan 4,141 Posted July 30, 2016 So whats the track record now? and who holds it? Good post Ouch! ....... I hope the correct people read it and learn from it. After hearing what BV track has been like, that was poor do's last night. I don't want tonight to be the same, Or maybe it was like it was last night, change it for tonight so Aussie don't have a head start on all the others. Some light drizzle here, but I am 30 miles west of Manchester but the wind blows that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tocha 308 Posted July 30, 2016 Great by the aussies but geez what a borefest, what track is the new stadium track based on as i read somewhere they looked at other tracks. Fricke should have been excluded as well, cant believe Tatum actually rode and was half decent by all accounts, but didnt change the result luckily. Junior Check from 15.35 then decide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksrvkiDhu6I Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted July 30, 2016 SO what influence do you think BSI had on the track? I can tell you. Nothing. After all the fine rain yesterday the track staff (BV's) in conjunction with the FIM actually produced a race track that even the riders will tell you was TOO good. So smooth with lots of grip that with riders of that quality allows them to create the huge gaps between one another. A lot of work was done last night to rip up the track and hopefully this evening, after an untimely practice, conditions will be more conducive to the racing we all want to see. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FAST GATER 853 Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) SO what influence do you think BSI had on the track? I can tell you. Nothing. After all the fine rain yesterday the track staff (BV's) in conjunction with the FIM actually produced a race track that even the riders will tell you was TOO good. So smooth with lots of grip that with riders of that quality allows them to create the huge gaps between one another. A lot of work was done last night to rip up the track and hopefully this evening, after an untimely practice, conditions will be more conducive to the racing we all want to see. The track was TOO GOOD smooth ,grip and every rider loved it so your saying that when they get the racing surface they all ask for it is no good to race on ,this could only happen in this sport !!!!!!!!!! Edited July 30, 2016 by FAST GATER 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
screm 8,057 Posted July 30, 2016 Did you try them all Steve.??? and £10 for a program.... did the program cover tonights racing as well. £10 for a prog is moe then a bit steep. I think the programme covered both meetings but you need to fill in each and every race for both. There is a screen on the second bend which gives all the information you need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites