Garry1603 353 Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) Sadly, although Holder and Batch have got the temporary inconvenience (and lost earnings) from this avoidable situation, the real loser yet again is British speedway. Hopefully the national press don't get hold of the story, otherwise it's yet another nail in the coffin. Why couldn't Chapman and the riders have sat down and discussed their issues before it came to this? I'm sure that if either party had offered, something could have been agreed - but no, a lack of communication has left all the parties looking a bit amateurish (including the sport itself). It will be interesting to see what sort of reception the two riders get (if) they ever appear at KL again. Edited August 1, 2017 by Garry1603 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waytogo28 2,054 Posted August 1, 2017 It's obvious that NO GP riders or anywhere world class ( on consistent basis ) are going to ride in the UK because of the likely new Poland and ONE other league. And because the money on offer here is very much below that on offer in Poland and Sweden. Let them ride there. If we have entertaining speedway of a lower level what's the problem? We can enjoy the "cream" in the GP's. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odds On 373 Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) lisa-colette, on 01 Aug 2017 - 1:25 PM, said:lisa-colette, on 01 Aug 2017 - 1:25 PM, said:Either that or riders won't want to go to KL in the future. Really, so riders who hold out for better deals get itchy feet the nearer the season approaches, do you really think they wouldn't sign if offered a deal...;lets not forget most riders only know how to ride a speedway bike... Edited August 1, 2017 by Odds On Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Doctor... 1,478 Posted August 1, 2017 "Eat rubbish"?!? Good to see Darcy hasn't become any more articulate 😅 😂 Indeed That was to me.. he's such a clever fella Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted August 1, 2017 Indeed That was to me.. he's such a clever fella Brilliant on a speedway bike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Doctor... 1,478 Posted August 1, 2017 Brilliant on a speedway bike Indeed he is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CB252 1,376 Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) I've tried to draw the conversation to this on a number of occassions, and have noted several hissy fits from riders involved on the night on social media regarding the situation. Here goes again. All the riders apparently thought the track was unsafe on the night according to J Holder, who is now claiming as much on twitter. Why didn't he, and others, back C Holder up on the night instead of leaving him to carry the can on his own? Total lack of rider solidarity. It's totally baffling to me. Edited August 1, 2017 by CB252 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BurntFaceMan 413 Posted August 1, 2017 I've tried to draw the conversation to this on a number of occassions, and have noted several hissy fits from riders involved on the night on social media regarding the situation. Here goes again. All the riders apparently thought the track was unsafe on the night according to J Holder, who is now claiming as much on twitter. Why didn't he, and others, back C Holder up on the night instead of leaving him to carry the can on his own? Total lack of rider solidarity. It's totally baffling to me. Probably something to do with the fact that Jack still has a job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,028 Posted August 1, 2017 Really, so riders who hold out for better deals get itchy feet the nearer the season approaches, do you really think they wouldn't sign if offered a deal...;lets not forget most riders only know how to ride a speedway bike... They would if they were desperate but all the decent ones would go elsewhere. As long as KL don't want any more Aussies that's fine as they tend to stick together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DizzAssStar 203 Posted August 1, 2017 Total lack of rider solidarity. It's totally baffling to me. Not to me ............... its very easy for them to make any claim they like........... AFTER the event !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B.V 72 1,054 Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) Just a point about Holder and Poole, there is no way Poole could re-sign Holder this season having not included him in this season's starting 1-7. However I think its petty on the part of Buster that neither Holder nor Batch have any chance to talk with other potential employers!! Not a Buster fan in any way but he is off some fans getting a lot of stick for what he has done and for the timing of the move. But think about it Batch and Holder are upset and badly done to and are letting all the world know about it.Not bothered about being sacked by Kings lynn a club they must have really pd off.But thinking about themselves they thought it would be fairer if buster had let them know a day or so earlier so they had chance to find another club. So that they could have taken the jobs of another two riders who have done no wrong to their club leaving them in the same boat as they are in now and they would not have batted an eye lid about it. So whos worse them or Buster ?. Edited August 1, 2017 by B.V 72 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woz01 3,589 Posted August 1, 2017 I've tried to draw the conversation to this on a number of occassions, and have noted several hissy fits from riders involved on the night on social media regarding the situation. Here goes again. All the riders apparently thought the track was unsafe on the night according to J Holder, who is now claiming as much on twitter. Why didn't he, and others, back C Holder up on the night instead of leaving him to carry the can on his own? Total lack of rider solidarity. It's totally baffling to me. We've been told by several posters that Poole wanted the points as they could see certain riders were not up for it. Points over safety? Anyway riders asked for a track grade and got it with Hans saying the track was fine after that happened. Holder and Batchelor still went home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Lady 5,400 Posted August 1, 2017 I've tried to draw the conversation to this on a number of occassions, and have noted several hissy fits from riders involved on the night on social media regarding the situation. Here goes again. All the riders apparently thought the track was unsafe on the night according to J Holder, who is now claiming as much on twitter. Why didn't he, and others, back C Holder up on the night instead of leaving him to carry the can on his own? Total lack of rider solidarity. It's totally baffling to me. Baffles the heck out of me as well, Well no it doesn't actually speedway riders in the main are a selfish lot, if it doesn't affect them personally or in the pocket they don't want to know that's why several attempts have been made to set up an effective Riders Association and have all failed. IF tracks are as dangerous as some riders claim, silencers are as dangerous as some claim it would seem the sensible thing for all the riders to get together and try to thrash out solutions with the authorities (whoever they may be). Any statement from Chris Holder yet? Any big howls of protest from other promoters about Chapman's actions yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emilali 500 Posted August 1, 2017 Fair play to Chapman for screwing these two over, long overdue in my opinion. Both of them seem to think Speedway in this country owes them one. Yes, speedway in GB is a shambles I am not doubting that, but both have been very vocal in slagging it off plenty yet come out crying when they cant ride here for the rest of the season. Holder has been frankly garbage this season, his massive ego maybe just caught up with him. If Hancock hadn't got injured his younger brother could have potentially taken his place in the Torun side. I mean how ego denting must it have been to have been dropped for Tungate in Sweden two weeks ago . Hopefully we don't have to see these two back in Speedway in this country and if that affects their visas then more the better. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
