waiheke1 4,295 Posted October 8, 2018 1 hour ago, MARK246 said: That's because of the GP mindset, second place is good enough. How to take an extreme, winner takes all sport and turn it in to something so dull. Yep, this gp series has been incredibly dull, and clearly it is because riders like Woffy dont have a winning mindset... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Carter 62 Posted October 8, 2018 2 hours ago, MARK246 said: That's because of the GP mindset, second place is good enough. How to take an extreme, winner takes all sport and turn it in to something so dull. Or a more accurate way to look at it would be that in the old one of world final if you had one bad race the jig was up and you might as well start packing up your van. In SGP every point counts so riders race hard through the whole meeting. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adonis 1,454 Posted October 8, 2018 2 hours ago, MARK246 said: That's because of the GP mindset, second place is good enough. How to take an extreme, winner takes all sport and turn it in to something so dull. I wasn't talking about GPs i meant league racing ,the top boys of those days would have been disgraced by 5 points in a league match Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted October 8, 2018 34 minutes ago, adonis said: I wasn't talking about GPs i meant league racing ,the top boys of those days would have been disgraced by 5 points in a league match Well let's face it, that's understandable given how much easier it was given the heat format and lower standard compared to what Woffy races in Sweden and Poland... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geoff100 1,426 Posted October 8, 2018 Just watched the highlight of the last races think ty owes hancock a big drink ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Endeavour 681 Posted October 8, 2018 Mauger with his consistency would probably have won more world titles if it had been in GP form when he rode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted October 9, 2018 10 hours ago, Endeavour said: Mauger with his consistency would probably have won more world titles if it had been in GP form when he rode. 68-70,72-74. Any other years? But agree somewhat, for the top couple of riders in world the gp system would favour them. Everyone else had a better chance in a one off final. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,643 Posted October 9, 2018 31 minutes ago, waiheke1 said: 68-70,72-74. Any other years? But agree somewhat, for the top couple of riders in world the gp system would favour them. Everyone else had a better chance in a one off final. There's a case to be made for Michanek in 73, and I think Mauger's experience might have given him the advantage over Olsen in 71 across a whole season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, arnieg said: There's a case to be made for Michanek in 73, and I think Mauger's experience might have given him the advantage over Olsen in 71 across a whole season. Agreed. So ending with 5-7 titles? Maybe would have got close 75-78 but likely to be the olsen/Collins years? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacqueline 19 Posted October 9, 2018 our photos from Torun are now online: https://photos.app.goo.gl/8m2tbwctreenwS116 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,109 Posted October 9, 2018 There is a strong possibility that Ove Fundin would have won every year from 1956 - 1963, making eight in all. The only interruption to that could have been Briggo in 57 and/or 58. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,362 Posted October 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, norbold said: There is a strong possibility that Ove Fundin would have won every year from 1956 - 1963, making eight in all. The only interruption to that could have been Briggo in 57 and/or 58. Briggs would have probably won in 67 though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,109 Posted October 9, 2018 34 minutes ago, Grachan said: Briggs would have probably won in 67 though. Yes, that's why I didn't include 67! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,981 Posted October 9, 2018 On 10/8/2018 at 9:49 AM, adonis said: I wasn't talking about GPs i meant league racing ,the top boys of those days would have been disgraced by 5 points in a league match I must have been lucky,or unlucky if you like.I made one trip to Cradley and after beating Nielsen in the Golden Helmet,Gundersen then went on to get around 5 or 6 in the meeting against Oxford.I also went to Reading and you know what Per Jonsson got about 5 or 6 points!!! Obviously you are underestimating the impact as I am still talking about those meetings decades after lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topaz325 1,856 Posted October 9, 2018 Another great trip to Torun, good weather , friendly people, nice food and the beer! plus the prices of food and drink. Oh and the Speedway was first class too, not so good was the Polish chap dancing and cheering when Tai fell off! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites