mikebv 10,273 Posted August 30, 2021 1 minute ago, R87 said: When? It's been garbage all season and has been for years. Sadly the bikes now dont deliver the racing levels they used to on the tight circuits.. Too grippy and they bite too much and spit riders off.. Too slick and passing is practically impossible without rider mistakes.. Tonight was one of the better meetings I have watched at Wolves over the past few years... Not more than 6/10 though if honest.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R87 476 Posted August 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, mikebv said: Sadly the bikes now dont deliver the racing levels they used to on the tight circuits.. Too grippy and they bite too much and spit riders off.. Too slick and passing is practically impossible without rider mistakes.. Tonight was one of the better meetings I have watched at Wolves over the past few years... Not more than 6/10 though if honest.. Nothing to do with the bikes. Even when you had the likes of Ermolenko and Correy riding there it churned out boring racing 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,013 Posted August 30, 2021 I always used to enjoy my visits to Monmore... but then I was following Coventry and we usually came away with the points, maybe that had something to do with it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,028 Posted August 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, iainb said: I always used to enjoy my visits to Monmore... but then I was following Coventry and we usually came away with the points, maybe that had something to do with it Snap. I've only been to Wolves twice, once in playoff SF and Final (different years) as we won there both times! I found it stressful as you are just waiting for Wolves riders to sneak past! I think the key is not to ride mid track but I could be getting mixed up with Lakeside! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,273 Posted August 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, R87 said: Nothing to do with the bikes. Even when you had the likes of Ermolenko and Correy riding there it churned out boring racing When those two were there you had some of the best racing I have witnessed anywhere at the Wolves v Aces clashes.. Joe Screen, Bobby Ott, Shawn Moran, Kelly Moran and Jason Lyones etc were great to watch around Monmore with the outside being the main overtaking line followed.. Sadly now it's pretty much square off the corner to make a long straight, and power up the inside coming out of the turns.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cityrebel 2,960 Posted August 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, mikebv said: When those two were there you had some of the best racing I have witnessed anywhere at the Wolves v Aces clashes.. Joe Screen, Bobby Ott, Shawn Moran, Kelly Moran and Jason Lyones etc were great to watch around Monmore with the outside being the main overtaking line followed.. Sadly now it's pretty much square off the corner to make a long straight, and power up the inside coming out of the turns.. I saw a decent meeting at Kent this afternoon, but only managed about 10 heats of Wolves v Belle Vue before dozing off. It was pretty tame stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfie456 500 Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: Pretty poor meeting sad to say in front of a decent crowd. Usual Monmore fodder with lesser quality riders dialled in and beating visiting riders of a higher calibre. Trick track. But no bumps like your roller coaster track and don't say its improved. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acef 795 Posted August 30, 2021 Not the worst meeting for Monmore. It’s a difficult track and isn’t suited to today’s rider. That said I’ve seen worse over the last few years here. BV have an issue in the middle of this team. Both Worralls have been poor, and today was the worst I’ve seen from Steve for a long, long time. He was nowhere near quick enough at the NSS and for whatever reason that carried onto the return fixture on a completely different track which has previously suited him. There are no reasons sometimes, whenever he puts a BV race jacket on he suddenly becomes an amateur rider. Odd. Bewley was excellent across the day and only had one blip off gate 3 which clearly wasn’t working. He looked down on power in heat 13, I don’t know if anyone noticed that but it was weird. I almost felt like fatigue was kicking in, he was struggling to hang onto the bike. Maybe just me. Wolves look very good, but can certainly be beaten. They will pick us in the semi, which will probably be the end of us. If they were to pick someone else I’d actually fancy us to make the final. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garry1603 353 Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) Well; done to Wolves, fully deserved the two wins. As a Belle Vue fan I was happier with the away performance, All day the Wolves riders looked capable of winning races whereas only the Aces top three were really competitive (but at least Brennan tried hard). The 'engine room' of the Aces failed again I'm afraid and some of the management decisions were frankly strange. Worrall's lunge at the end was borne out of frustration after an appalling day for him, I hope he learns from it. Edited August 30, 2021 by Garry1603 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,780 Posted August 30, 2021 Didn't watch this evening but went to the NSS earlier in the day and thoroughly enjoyed it even though there was only really one team in the contest. Some terrific racing in front of what I'd describe as a fairly modest crowd, thought the two stands would be packed out. Easy to pick out the standout performers from the score chart but I was really impressed with the two rising stars, they looked like they belonged there today and both got properly stuck in. A big tick for the scheme. If I was Belle Vue I'd be sitting Worrall down and asking why he has scored so well for Poole this year but served that load of pony up today. He was awful at BV and I see he faired even worse tonight. Not good enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,821 Posted August 30, 2021 7 hours ago, Phil The Ace said: 99.9% if not 100% of aces fans would have said lawson is the better option at NSS. As it turned out, Lawson never show up which was very strange Most Aces fans will think twice about Lawson being a ‘track specialist’ again tho I’d imagine. 2 hours ago, Bruiser said: a reserve wins matches and always has done Aces out scored Wolves reserves 12 -10 1 hour ago, Bruiser said: you cannot have 2 of the top 5 perform like Worrall and Etheridge when you haven’t got a race winning reserve and expect to win matches NBJ won a race, so did Douglas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beowulf 1,513 Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, R87 said: Nothing to do with the bikes. Even when you had the likes of Ermolenko and Correy riding there it churned out boring racing You really don't know what you are talking about. When Doc Bridgett was doing the track we won multiple best track of the year, as voted by the riders. I will admit it has been a loss since he retired. But when Sam was riding it was the most breathtaking riding I have seen anywhere, bar none. As an aside which team do you support, or would you rather not say ? Is criticism only allowed in one direction ? Edited August 31, 2021 by Beowulf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted August 31, 2021 There's no doubt that Wolves is a tricky track to race and over the years it has paid dividends but there's no doubting this team who have obviously been performing home and away! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,028 Posted August 31, 2021 9 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Didn't watch this evening but went to the NSS earlier in the day and thoroughly enjoyed it even though there was only really one team in the contest. Some terrific racing in front of what I'd describe as a fairly modest crowd, thought the two stands would be packed out. Easy to pick out the standout performers from the score chart but I was really impressed with the two rising stars, they looked like they belonged there today and both got properly stuck in. A big tick for the scheme. If I was Belle Vue I'd be sitting Worrall down and asking why he has scored so well for Poole this year but served that load of pony up today. He was awful at BV and I see he faired even worse tonight. Not good enough. Tbh, he should do better for Poole than BVas it is a slightly easier league.(but obv not this much difference) Watching him at Poole 9 times out of 10 he makes the gate and he is away, also has a good partnership with Stef Nielsen. They seem to know where each other are going to be on the track. Even if he doesn't gate he seems to just stay on the outside and use the grip there to pass others. He beat Ryan Douglas at Leicester but then I guess Leicester is an easier track to ride than Wolves. Maybe he uses different bikes for different leagues? But I'm sure it's not as simple as switching to his 'Poole' bike. I think Middlo and Lemo get on okay so they might be talking about it anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,273 Posted August 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Tbh, he should do better for Poole than BVas it is a slightly easier league.(but obv not this much difference) Watching him at Poole 9 times out of 10 he makes the gate and he is away, also has a good partnership with Stef Nielsen. They seem to know where each other are going to be on the track. Even if he doesn't gate he seems to just stay on the outside and use the grip there to pass others. He beat Ryan Douglas at Leicester but then I guess Leicester is an easier track to ride than Wolves. Maybe he uses different bikes for different leagues? But I'm sure it's not as simple as switching to his 'Poole' bike. I think Middlo and Lemo get on okay so they might be talking about it anyway. He seems to get beaten quite a lot by opposition second strings and reserves when riding for the Aces.. Maybe its because these riders are of a higher standard than second strings and reserves in the 2nd Div? The heat leaders are pretty much the same in both leagues, but the next level down are better maybe? Thus he runs a few wins or seconds giving him confidence in the 2nd Div, whereby (usually from what I have seen), seldom wins his first race in Div 1, and more than should probably happen, doesnt even get second.. Him, his brother and Wright do seem to often be on the wrong end of a lot of heat losses in Div 1 due to their poor win ratio, and to compound it, dont always get the second place to reduce the impact, and actually run too many lasts... Hence the Aces invariably lose the meetings they do in the "engine room" of the team.. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
