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Oxford Spires vs Leicester Lions PLR2 25/09/25 19:30
szkocjasid replied to IainB's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
If I was being pedantic I'd say they don't race in the Premier League, they race in the Premiership. Aside from that, I agree the points for draws is daft, I see no reason why both teams can't just score a point without a superheat. But the aggregate points is a good rule. Even removing the extra points from draws Sheffield would still finish first. After all that, finishing top doesn't make you the league winners, as much as I think it should do. -
It also came out in a recent audit, that Stal were never paid by an organisation (not named) for Gorzow GP in ‘21, ‘22 and ‘24. 2025 GP profits had to be used to subsidise the lost payments from the before years. If this wasn’t the case the club would almost have had no debt by the end of this calendar year. In addition it was also mentioned the play down matches with Częstochowa and Bydgoszcz have cost Stal a further 1.2 million zloty for running stadium costs and rider costs. 30th of September (Tuesday) is an official meeting between the city and the club.
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There’s already 5 teams from this years prem for 2026 - The top four of 2025 plus Stars & Oxford although as the Cheetahs. But you may be correct that three other promotions may join the top flight to give an eight team Prem
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Now it makes sense! Thanks for the snippet, and this is the reason I don’t buy the speedway star as they don’t have the full context and story yet give English fans false news. Back story: Stal are in many millions of debt due to a former stal president (Sadowski) who is currently now on the run and not even in the country and police want to question him. He fled the country and said he is going on a two month cruise on vacation without his phone or way of contact and is yet to return, fans don’t know where or what has happened with him thus far. The former president took millions from the pockets of fans and sponsors for his private company and use and did nothing to help build the club or the team and sometimes not even paying the riders, he is the man who broke the club and when the club announced that they would have an internal audit at the end of last year he quickly fled the country and resigned as president. He is the man who told Wozniak that he will have another year on his contract and a few days later, straight after a match told him he is not in the plans and broke the agreement and told him to leave, much to fans frustration. Before this former President there was a President like fans liked (Grzyb) and he did everything for the club, he built it up, invested in the stadium, team and even the fan club helping out with various things for them. Fans liked him, but he was caught in his private company money laundering and was arrested and put into jail, before he got arrested he named dropped one person, for stealing from the club, slandering his name previously regarding a drinking allegation (which Grzyb took him to court and won) and who worked highly within the club between 1991-2001, who was this man…Jerzy Synowiec. When Grzyb was arrested Stal needed to quickly appoint somebody from within the club to president…enter Sadowski. Why is that story important to the speedway star snippet… because the man who works for the council now and gave the interview is called Jerzy Synowiec. When Sadowski become president he became close friends with Jerzy and got him on his side to allow him back to watch matches as his own VIP, he was often photo’d with the former president and was claimed to be very close friends and potentially knew of the scandal, when Sadowski went on the run, Jerzy was once again banned from the stadium even as a VIP guest, he is now known to constantly try to bring Stal down as they forced him away, his name has been dragged down because if his friendship with Sadowski, so he now has a personal vendetta against Stal to try and clear his name. The next snippet is from Polish media regarding this situation: Lawyer Jerzy Synowiec was accused for months of stealing souvenirs from the legend of Stal Gorzów Edward Jancarz. The case fell silent with the forced change of authorities in the club. The former president was arrested and arrested for money laundering, and soon director Tomasz Michalski also passed away. The administrator of the website that attacked Synowiec told us who the orders came from.
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Col replied to racers and royals's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
Female... did Celina Liebmann do anything after leaving Workington? -
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racers and royals replied to racers and royals's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
Link for SF 1 tomorrow http://video.ucoz.lv/index/live_stream/0-5 -
Personally I think the BSN series should be completed first because it was an early season competition. Then the KOC, cause there's no reason that should have run so long either. Finish up with the play-offs. I would think that would get a big crowd whenever it is raced. Whereas the BSN may get a smaller crowd of fans have already just watched the play-off & KOC finals. I can certainly see the logic in finishing semi finals before racing finals, means the other finalists can plan dates without having to wait though. The BSN series should have been completed months ago, no excuse for it going on so long. Of course clubs tend to ignore it as they want to get their league fixtures over & done with, I don't really know why, the cut-off date doesn't need to be so early it'll cause havoc with fixtures. I also think it would have made sense for the Redcar vs Poole match to be a double header, that seems very logical, save on travel expenses & get competitions completed sooner. Oh I forgot, another reason to race the KOC finals first is to get bigger crowds. Poole & Redcar fans can't be sure they'll be in any more finals, so they may turn up in greater numbers for these matches? If it was just one out of 3 guaranteed finals, would they get the same attendance?
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What are peoples views on the Sprint Races? Do you think they will be dropped in 2026 or expanded to feature at more Grand Prixs? * From a personal point of view. I see little point in them unless you could incorporate them in some form into the main meeting on the day itself.
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If Max and Freddy were to continue improving at this rate they will have good careers ahead. Max is steady whereas Freddy can't gate but battles past riders when possible. Too many young Brits have chucked it so don't see what unwarranted criticism achieves here. We finish top of the league and make the play off finals. That's plenty good enough for me thanks.
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I agree with that. But wouldn't have fitted in the current team in place of a reserve. One of the top 5 wouldn't have been signed. In hindsight you'd say Boughen, but pre-season he could've been the next big thing.
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What will 2026 UK speedway bring?
enotian replied to Lionsman66's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
The split of opinions here is exactly the problem that needs to be solved. One big league (any race night therefore no star names or enough riders but otherwise sustainable). Or A Premiership (Mon & Thursday with star names but not enough teams). As per my previous post I think you can have both. But the Premiership needs to be slimmed down. 8 teams 7 home and 7 away. Get it all done over June and July when the sports channels have no football. Like The Hundred in cricket. Give the broadcaster something they can focus on and market to a wider audience for a shorter period. That probably provides enough fixtures for the star riders and promoters, especially if whatever TV money is for a small number fixtures. Less is more. But not for the domestic riders or maybe the stadium owners or supporters The solution, Premiership teams also operate a 2nd tier team. Alongside the other current 2nd tier teams ie 14 team league. Where the riders come from at this point I don't know so maybe 6 or even 5 man teams initially. You could even have a different promoter running the 2nd Tier team. Yes the 2nd tier teams might not attract the same attendances as the Premiership fixtures but the operating cost will be lower without the star riders. It's basically the franchise cricket model where the top stars move around the globe to play in different leagues for different franchises supplemented by local players who return to domestic leagues once the circus has moved to the next (town) country. -
Hindsight is wonderful but Glasgow should have stuck by Ace Pjiper.IMO
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What will 2026 UK speedway bring?
cowboy cookie returns? replied to Lionsman66's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Louis does put a lot of effort into attracting sponsorship. He has one new backer this year who I believe are very impressed with how Louis goes about things. -
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racers and royals replied to racers and royals's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
Germany now Blodorn Hausl Hannah Grunwald -
What will 2026 UK speedway bring?
THE DEAN MACHINE replied to Lionsman66's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
That may well be the case but until the sport sorts itself out those sponsors are few and far between and it’s not the fault of any one promotion, it’s the fault of the collective, the sport itself doesn’t know what it is or where it’s going, and if speedway doesn’t know how do you expect anyone else to ? -
If they payed him!!
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Because unless Redcar are going to do 2 home meetings in a week, the earliest it will be done is middle of October and then 2 weeks to do 2 finals and that's providing there is no bad weather. Which is asking a lot considering at least half will be north of England and Scotland. All SFs should be completed before finals take place when it is same teams. If they going to have all competitons at end of the season, league first then koc then bsn cup. I think Poole were hoping Oxford got through last night. Be easier to sort out!
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Ridiculous is a bit of a strong word. Personally can't see it makes any difference
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Asset’s are a thing off the past riders are self employed mercenaries.
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What will 2026 UK speedway bring?
JamesB replied to Lionsman66's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Part of the problem is that there are good and not so good promoter’s. I don’t believe that Ipswich lose money as Louis has stated a number of times that he will not bankrupt the club for success. He puts in a lot of effort to attract sponsors of which there are many. I believe that Doyle’s wages are paid by one of the sponsors and I wouldn’t be surprised if part or all of Sayfutdinov’s are as well. -
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Col replied to racers and royals's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
This is no more.... or it has changed location. Whee is was now some Sphinx chain Shawarma place (bloody Tony Stark)... food was Ok, service was appalling. -
What will 2026 UK speedway bring?
THE DEAN MACHINE replied to Lionsman66's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Nobody wants the stars out of speedway including me but we don’t have the money to carry on doing the same thing, they should get the promotion from each team ,get round the table with the top boys and say here is the pot we have which isn’t enough to carry on doing the same how do you propose we go forward ? And let’s here it from the top riders -
Or make it a double header