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Think the FA would stop it

Had the dog at the vets.... But not interested in replying anyway.....

Okay 1 down....400+ to go.

Because times have changes to such a degree that my Tier 9 local football club have just spent £1,000,000 on a new pitch. They are not going to want to contaminate it with shale when they have specific rules on what type of studs can be used.

Sadly speedway keeps losing tracks and it's possibly the final countdown for the great sport. What occurs to me, rightly or otherwise, is that speedway is short of top promoters - guys with funds and ideas to introduce new parties to the ranks. I see there are over 400 non league soccer grounds in existence. Plus more rugby stadiums. So can't a wealthy promoter (if they exist of course) find at least 5/6 stadiums capable of joining the speedway world? Ok it would need soccer's permission to build a track around a pitch but why not? I mean for approx 30 years I enjoyed seeing the Comets race 398 yards around Derwent Park's rugby pitch with minimal problems and great speedway. Surely down South or in the Midlands some stadia exist awaiting a promoters call?

Very likely you were asking questions that were much too difficult for whoever saw them at " Rugby Towers".😀

Annoyingly i am not in town for this, expect a home win - but maybe the Witches to sneak the BP at Foxhall a week later - which again annoyingly I will miss as i am back in Sheffield that week!

You have to wonder if he has come back too early - so yes time to rest up for 2025 and come back in 2026 fit and raring to go.

Appreciate the response IainB! Clearly MikeBV didn't want to stand on any of his initial comments and reply glad someone did!

And it has done zero to to deliver an extra discernable level of punters in.. Like in the Sky years, the money pays for the top riders rather than help subsidise lower admission costs... Brum were quoted as having to fork out £15k from a home meeting to pay for BZ, which they clearly were not going to do/afford, however, if they did then that would have just brought more inflation to the overall costs of the rest, as the second and third HL's would have demanded more, with the SS's then also knocking on the door... TV has delivered very little as Promoters havent used that two hour free advert to paint a positive picture of their business... Instead we have cameras panning around "one man and his dog" crowd levels which does nothing to build a positive brand, and nothing to bring some FOMO to those watching at home.. Ironically, no TV would bring in bigger crowds given so many currently give TV matches a miss when they are meaningless play off matches, or when the weather is a bit dodgy....

I know that this reply wasn't for me but you ask some valid questions, so I'll chip in my two penneth anyway 😂 2) The PCMT gets a big crowd at the beginning of the season, partly due to the line up but also partly because the Speedway public has been starved of Speedway for the previous 5 months and the appetite is high, whether it would attract such a large crowd on a Monday night in the summer is questionable. 3) If a family has an "entertainment" budget to use for a weekly outing do you choose a Monday night when the kids have school the next day or save it for a weekend activity when they don't? If it's the latter, that budget has gone and Speedway has lost out. There is no competition there and the weekend attraction generally wins. 4) The lack of promotion and relegation in British Speedway means many more meaningless matches, you're always going to get them, but they need to be minimised. Imagine this dreadful season with promotion and relegation the top 4 jostling for pay off spots and the bottom 3 against relegation. Now the 2 leagues run under one banner there should be no excuse for not having promotion and relegation. 6) The 15 minute argument is valid(ish), comparing it to Football, the "stars" are in full view of the public for 90 minutes, so it doesn't really matter if they're stood there picking their nose, that's what you've paid to go and watch. Speedway you'll see them for 15 minutes of racing, maybe a minute before a race gardening (picking their nose) and if you're really really lucky one of them may come round and acknowledge the crowd after winning a race. At Leicester they're marched out after the match for a quick interview in front of the crowd on the main straight, it's been a bit hit and miss this season but is well worth hanging around for after the match and I don't know why all clubs don't do this as part of the match day experience. As the riders spend the majority of their time during a meeting in the pits I've always advocated that the pits should be on the infield in full view of the paying public.

So now we are suggesting we water our league down only to lose every match against Denmark and Sweden teams because they will have GP riders and we wont? Come on guys someone needs to have concrete answers or this is more farcical by the day.

I think the answer is to create an Anglo Saxon league. 5 teams for the UK 5 from Denmark 5 from Sweden No Poland. Meet every team one, that's 14 matches. Could add the KO Cup for local teams and maybe even a test match series.

Nonsense.

I thought Adam's dad said he was due to ride in Poland but the meeting was called off. Obviously in Poland they dont care if you are not fully fit.

Major comment there bellevueace. It's most certainly a factor that alienates the non speedway fraternity. And despite my best efforts to persuade some folk to attend speedway it makes it so difficult to sell the sport. In the 1970's, my early start to speedway fixes, you wouldn't see any riders plying their trade with two teams (go on prove me wrong) in fact guests were minimal with R/R the injury option, mostly. I know riders need to make a living but sadly it has cost speedway big style and the future is grimmer than ever.

2026 one league will (high potentially) remove the following riders from British Speedway: Doyle Emil Brennan Magic Tungate Bewley Kurtz Lidsey Fricke J. Holder Kvech B. Cook C.Holder - Potential K. Rew - Potential T. Musielak- Potential People in favour of one league need to start writing how to make this product work instead of naming problems of the current structure, everyone can moan about things but it takes a different type of person to come up with solutions instead of problems. One league - What nights are ridden for teams? How many riders in teams? Are teams still allowed to guest? How many teams make up the play offs? What is the play off format? Is the league split between regions? How much is a ticket? How do you promote a watered down league and keep the fans who only come to watch the best?

I totally understand where you are trying to go with this statement and it's good that you are passionate enough to write it all out! I have a couple of comments on points you made with I think need clarification. 1. Is there an appetite for speedway, yes from people on this forum but a lot of people moan that people on the street do not even know what speedway is? This is due to poor promotion. 2. You comment about 2 big crowds, because of a BH meeting which I concur with as Ipswich had the same vs Lynn, but you comment about PCMM was a full stadium because of the top class field, so you are opening admitting top class riders brought in fans and also mention if this was a more common theme then more people, including yourself, would come to watch, yet you are still proposing removing top class riders and watering down the product to favour 1 league? 3. Running on a week night restricts crowds you speak of, but I've seen you previously mention speedway has a lot of competition in Manchester due to other leisurely activities, so now you are saying run it on a weekend where there will be even more competition? and when that fails you would probably use that same argument as to why its small crowds on a weekend plus speedway then having to fight against football on a weekend. 4. Running several pointless meeting as play offs are set it stone early could very well happen with one league as well so where does that improve the sport? 5. I totally get the guest fest issue and that is the main gripe for people I personally believe, but nobody has yet to mention that in one league what happens if you get two of your riders injured? Does this mean you can't guest? One league would need multiple riders signed who don't even ride weekly, like Poland, just in case people get injured so you have a full squad which is your team, otherwise you haven't moved the sport forward at all. 5. You say it costs you £50 for two people, which I agree is a lot, and you go to 3 or 4 meetings equalling £150-200, and if it is down to £30 you would 'easily' go to minimum 10 which equals £300+ so why don't you go to more matches this season and spend the same money? Also, are you watching every stream BVTV runs out of curiosity? 6. Your last throw away comment about 15mins of entertainment is typical dip in and out of speedway fan, in football, the ball isn't in play for 90 mins for entertainment, 40 mins are players time wasting and rolling on the floor or trying to play for time, in boxing people spend £60-£1000 to watch potentially 30 secs of the fight they want. Comments about the 15 min of entertainment shows more of that persons dedication to the sport than it does the sports itself.

Did Oxford not indicate earlier in the season that the were going to run in the Premiership and not in the Championship.?(might have that wrong though).

Saturday’s 2nd leg play-down semi line-ups Poznan v Tarnow ( 46-44) start time 3.30pm UK time. Poznan 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 Tarnow 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

New dates for the postponed Pila v Gniezno semi last Sunday are 1st leg Sunday 31st August Pila v Gniezno 2nd leg Sunday 7th September Gniezno v Pila

I'd personally say Adam is weak away from home this year so it could be an advantage, although I cannot see an Ipswich win. We just need to focus on keeping it close and doing well at home. We wont be facing Sheffield in the semis so use it as info for a potential final.

This does seem to happen far more than back in the day when riders were loyal to their teams it was their club, and there was a real rivalry riders we,rnt seen stood in the opposite side of the pits chinwagging with rivals, there was far more altercations between them that created real atmospheres but they were not rivals one night and team mates the next. No wonder we dont see the characters of yesteryear.

No brainer really, it's sad for Jordan but he needs to heal properly.

I can't see there being a TV contract with 6 teams and especially not 5 and it's questionable if there will be one with 7 as the TV companies haven't been queuing up to cover Speedway over the last few years.