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Will be interesting to see i they manage to get a sixth club, it seems to between Peterborough who as far as I'm aware haven't yet had the green light to even return to the showground let alone rebuild a track and stadium, someone to pony up most likely 100k minimum to run a nomad team at Oxford which baring divine intervention will lead to a thumping loss, or arm up the back for a championship club to move up, I'm not sure many see either of these three options as a sound long term business plan.

Hence why he'd have to charge PREM Prices in One Big League......PREM Clubs will pay it as well because it'll just be the normal PREM Contract that they were already planning on giving to them in the first place.. Glasgow and Poole fans seem to think that they'll keep their big hitters for the same wages.

They tried this already I can't remember when exactly but I think it was something to do with the availability of GP riders at weekends. I seem to remember Coventry riding at Stoke without the likes of Hamill, Hancock & (maybe) Jonsson and it was called the BSPA Cup (I think). Needless to say it never lasted

Wont be the first or last.

I do get the argument for two leagues as things stand but I think on a 3-5 year plan they need to get a top league of 8 somewhere between the current two standards if doable , or maybe it is a case of the decline just can't be reversed as people are no longer interested in the sport in sufficient numbers. I was thinking today how nightclubs are almost a bygone era also I live near a decent sized city that used to have about ten clubs around the millenium i think there's now one (which is smalll), loads of pubs have gone also, my son's have near zero interest in pubs and same goes for most of their mates everything is online shooting zombies now adays it seems.

What exactly are CHAMP Promoters going to do about it? Ban PREM Teams from signing a Rider on a 8+ GSA?.....Put PREM Clubs ACU Licenses on hold? Nothing they can do to stop the inevitable. Take our GP Riders away from us......Then we won't share the Best of British with you anymore.

Wont be the first or last.

They do and I don’t blame them, the championship is sustainable but unfortunately the premier league is desperate and either Peterborough or a current Championship team is going to be sacrificed to prop the league numbers up

I think that Peterborough Panthers agree that the Championship is the best format. I've heard a prominent member of "Forever Panthers Ltd" state that the Championship is British Speedway's gem in the crown. It was also said if Panthers had Bomber in the team for example, he would charge them double In the Premiership than what he would in the Championship.

I like the idea of an FA cup style competition early rounds could be NL and championship teams default to a one off home meeting against a higher placed team if drawn against them. Before anyone piles on and says be to one sided that’s how the magic of the cup would work. I’m sure say a Scunthorpe would relish a premier team visiting. Another huge issue along with the structures is the average crowd age that never seems to change year on year with new people in volume other than the odd team ie Glasgow, fail to address this and it will organically stop with little spectators creating little revenue to even put on meetings. I along with friends visited the speedway show yesterday throughly enjoyed it and will be back next year fully recommend, met a lot of familiar faces from European tours we attend we are mid 50s. Sitting in the rider interview room just looking around average age 65+. This has to be sorted. I constantly tell friends and family they come to the odd meeting then huge gaps loose interest….what is the answer…promote but social media can cost big mone6 these days. Wonder if the governing body has approached the likes of channel 4/5 offering a weekly high lights show. Maybe get BSN to create. What is also very well administered is the polish app called speedway extraliga up to date with so much information live results even live per heat in matches rider profiles up and coming fixtures etc. I’m sure many people have why don’t they offer this service in the uk.

Aye, that back injury really seemed to affect his engines. He was not the same rider after that.

Yip, TTT is insisting that the promoters that ruined the Premiership will be given absolute free reign to ruin a (pretty much) Championship level one big league...if that was too be the way the sport goes. More chance of the Championship promoters not allowing them in the league than letting them destroy what's left of the sport. Those 5 don't want someone to compete with, they just want a team they can all hammer repeatedly to prop up their failing Premiership. I'm just going to ignore TTT from now on. I've not got the crayons to explain it in a way that they will understand.

If we were a sport just starting out, none of these financial issues of the riders would be a thing but because riders have become accustomed to what they earn and have sort of become complacent it’s now a problem when they are faced with being reigned in

if it cost £10000.00 for 1 dart , how many do you think would be playing darts these days.

I’ve never said I’m right, I know some especially on here are sometimes way off the mark because I MAY know the facts but I don’t need to correct them, it’s a forum, it’s opinions, nobody is right or wrong, promoters are in the main decent folk with the odd exception, I read all posts and look to what people are saying and at the end of the day my opinion is a valuable or useless as yours even without quoting someone to get your point over

One thing is clear if Prem clubs won't/can't sign anyone until January then the riders will have finalised all their Polish/Swedish/Danish deals I wonder if that might mean a few not chosing UK?

Indeed. I remember the Arena Essex crew making noises about the demolition of the Raceway Tavern being unauthorised or such like, never heard another word about it subsequently

Don't fully understand people on here suggesting that riders will suffer financially with one league as they won't be able to double up. One league, however, with say eleven teams will give them 20 meetings for starters plus cup matches, play offs, local challenges, individuals etc. On another note and yes, I do keep harping on here about variety, but if there are two leagues why not have all teams involved in one Knockout Cup like football's FA Cup. Sponsorship for a decent prize fund would be a good start and have a proper run draw with no "fixes" like Poole v Plymouth or Belle Vue v Sheffield. All Championship sides to be given an advantage by having just the one home leg if they're drawn against a Premiership team. If two Premiership sides or Championship sides are drawn together then two legs home and away will be the order of the day. Realise there would be things to work out re Prem riders being paid if riding away to a Championship side but surely problem not insurmountable. It would give the sport more variety and imagine if say Plymouth were to beat Ipswich on their own patch. Not only would it be a great boost for the club but market it right and could be financial gains for an increased crowd.

Or the opposite opinion, we get no where with the attitude of ‘ I am right and the rest of you are wrong ‘ promoter type attitude.

I remember a couple of years ago there was a lot of adverse comment about the quality of the Racing tv stuff especially when compared with Sky Racing. Not sure if it's been addressed since and I've no idea how the BSN coverage would across on these platforms. I think it's a good idea

Fricke, Kurtz, Bewley, Lidsey, Brennan etc were not top riders when we signed them. Other clubs could have signed them at the time without breaking the bank. We are now being berated for wanting to keep some of them! Birminghams top three at the start of the season totalled more than Oxford & Kings Lynn and around only one point less than the others. They had the second best third heatleader in the league. In 2013 they topped the league and shut the following season. On behalf of the “big five”, we apologise for that. Not all problems are down to a few handy sound bites. I agree about the 10th match thing as variety is no guarantee of great entertainment but it’s something on here that is continually being put forward.

Well can thank the ‘Elite’ league for the state speedway is now in. Future young riders are totally dependent on the investment by their parents and the cost of that is colossal!

It wasn't £6k per PL club per season... BSN would deliver more than that. I'm led to believe it was worth around £100k per PL club per season, whether anything went to CL or NDL I don't know. You'd have to assume that PL clubs didn't get everything.

But if its six grand per premiership club per season Iain in the grand scheme of things its bugger all and I can't believe the likes of Gerrys chip shop as a sponsor will walk away given most sponsors are local and global reach really has zero effect on their sales.

No they can’t, public relations is not their strongpoint