bdjfan 107 Posted January 22, 2015 What a cracking post by Alex Davies makes it very clear now, avoids all the rumour mungering. All that's needed now is the powers that be need to pull there fingers out to get these workshops laid on and attended ASAP so that the paperwork can be processed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) So I guess my OP has now been answered with what sounds like the latest (of several) meetings with the UKV& I having taken place yesterday!! Now awaiting revised fixture lists, points limits, team announcements(?) and doubleing-up rules. Official BSPA statement on the 'ongoing visa situation' expected in due course. Edited January 22, 2015 by Skidder1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted January 22, 2015 So I guess my OP has now been answered with what sounds like the latest (of several) meetings with the UKV& I having taken place yesterday!! Now awaiting revised fixture lists, points limits, team announcements(?) and doubleing-up rules. Official BSPA statement on the 'ongoing visa situation' expected in due course. Will that be before or after the BSPA have been on a course to learn how to put together a readable, clear, statement. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted January 22, 2015 Will that be before or after the BSPA have been on a course to learn how to put together a readable, clear, statement. ...which will hopefully agree with what the UKV&I have instructed them!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bostonian 188 Posted January 22, 2015 Here's something substantial; http://scunthorpescorpions.co/?p=2383 Thats interesting and informative reading. Seems as though things can get sorted before the start of the season if the bspa can get their backsides in gear! Hopefully these 'workshops' can be sorted asap, as the young aussies make up a great portion of our riders here. Whether you like them or not, we need these guys in our leagues to keep it running and viable. The Elite & Premier league will be alot worse of without the likes of ward/fricke/kurtz's etc not here! Worryingly, will only lessen the product even more to the viewing public...... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan_Jones 1,005 Posted January 22, 2015 The statement is up; http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.28207 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Local Boy 36 Posted January 22, 2015 So the issue is quite clearly with the individual clubs concerned (as the employer). Anyone who has a nanoseconds of knowledge on visa rule would know that. Seems like some have been getting it a bit wrong doesn't it? Otherwise they'd be hauling them all in! Any way its been good to read some of the posts where the logic basically boils down to "they are like us; so they should be allowed in"; bad news is that we all originate from Africa so everyone around the world is "like us"; unpalatable for the bigots I know 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,373 Posted January 22, 2015 The statement is up; http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.28207 That was prepared by a Philadelphia Lawyer,very informative!!!!!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted January 22, 2015 The statement is up; http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.28207 I guess we must wait and see. I'm VERY impressed with Alex Davies comments. Clears up a lot of the conjecture. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted January 22, 2015 From the new statements there now seems absolutely no reason why this cant be resolved quite quickly and with little if any disruption to team line ups as currently announced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halifaxtiger 5,318 Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Why would Heeps require a visa at all? He was introduced at Mildenhall in the NL and it was insisted at the time that he needed no visa and was "British" so eligible for NL teams. If he needs a visa now, why didn't he then and was he ever eligible for NL? The answer is, of course, that he wasn't. He got in as a result of a crooked deal between the BSPA and a number of teams. While some might argue that speedway (or perhaps more accurately, the BSPA) have reaped what they have sown I think that the UK V&I are being unreasonable in taking this action at this point. Would it have been so unthinkable as to insist that they all attend courses in October ? Edited January 22, 2015 by Halifaxtiger 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XTC38L 79 Posted January 22, 2015 From the new statements there now seems absolutely no reason why this cant be resolved quite quickly and with little if any disruption to team line ups as currently announced.unfortunately a government agency is involved and nothing ever get resolved quickly when bureaucracy is involved. Sadly i can see lots of red tape to be cleared. http://www.swindonlinksport.com/2015/01/22/batchelor-hit-by-visa-issues-but-bspa-hopeful-of-resolution/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,373 Posted January 22, 2015 What a cracking post by Alex Davies makes it very clear now, avoids all the rumour mungering. All that's needed now is the powers that be need to pull there fingers out to get these workshops laid on and attended ASAP so that the paperwork can be processed.Agree 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,644 Posted January 22, 2015 unfortunately a government agency is involved and nothing ever get resolved quickly when bureaucracy is involved. Sadly i can see lots of red tape to be cleared. http://www.swindonlinksport.com/2015/01/22/batchelor-hit-by-visa-issues-but-bspa-hopeful-of-resolution/ The danger is that the first available workshop will be in August in a disused lavatory behind a sign saying "beware of the leopard" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,362 Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) This may be a new problem for Australians, but it's not so new for speedway. In the past it was always Swedes and Americans that had problems. I remember Jimmy Nilsen and Per Jonsson had a hell of a job getting work permits despite being two genuine World class prospects. It had to be proved that they were capabpe of getting a 6 point average before they were alowed and Swindon had to get the local MP involved in the end. Then there was Americans, who also needed a 6 point average. Shawn McConnell failed to get a work permit after failing to reach that figure, and by all accounts Rick miller only managed to achieve it after a little help from Shawn nd Kelly Moran in his final match aganst Sheffield. It used to be difficult for not EU (or EEC or whatever it was then) riders to get work permits, but that all seemed to fall by the wayside in the 90s. (Possibly in line with Tony Blair's "open door" immigration that everyone complains about now) The danger is that the first available workshop will be in August in a disused lavatory behind a sign saying "beware of the leopard" Isn't that on the back straight at Blunsdon? Edited January 22, 2015 by grachan 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
