OveFundinFan 4,145 Posted August 10, 2015 Yes, the pass Doyle did on AJ was not only clean but a very brave move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted August 10, 2015 Yes, the pass Doyle did on AJ was not only clean but a very brave move. Agreed, but you can guarantee had Nicki done it, it would be viewed differently. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedwaysliders 176 Posted August 10, 2015 Nicki didn't barrel into anyone, he continued on his line, Doyle turned into him, after first sticking his leg into him. Yes maybe Doyle did turn left a bit earlier then normal,we agree on that but he had to take a tight line because of his team mate on the outside.yes Doyle maybe should of been more aware as ive said earlier,but Nicki had made up his mind sometime yesterday that he was coming(in a straight line)no matter what,with no get out plan.You cant just do that when you are not in the lead,with the home riders in front of you,and expect to get away with it,Doyle had every right to move across and Nicki should really have waited for a better chance to path. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g13webb 4,254 Posted August 10, 2015 Yes maybe Doyle did turn left a bit earlier then normal,we agree on that but he had to take a tight line because of his team mate on the outside.yes Doyle maybe should of been more aware as ive said earlier,but Nicki had made up his mind sometime yesterday that he was coming(in a straight line)no matter what,with no get out plan.You cant just do that when you are not in the lead,with the home riders in front of you,and expect to get away with it,Doyle had every right to move across and Nicki should really have waited for a better chance to path. What utter rubbish you write. I reckon you must be the king member of the hate Pedersen Fan Club. Your explanation stinks of biasness. Having watched this video more than 20 times with no commentary, it is quite clear Pedersen did nothing wrong. The race starts, Doyle getting the drop, and leading into the first corner from the inside gate. Pedersen off gate 4 is behind entering the first bend. But Doyle drifts out wider then he should, leaving space inside to be exploited. Pedersen cuts back cleanly and has terrific drive to catch and pass Doyle way before the 3rd bend. You suggest Pedersen should've waited for a better opportunity to pass but ...Opportunities don't come any better than that. Just because Doyle made the gate doesn't give him the right pick and choice his line. He was caught out and should have excepted that Pedersen had the run on him. If, as you suggest he should have waited , probably we should change the art of the sport and play follow the leader.............. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 10, 2015 Any views on this comment by Nicki Pedersen? http://www.speedwaygp.com/news/article/4366/nicki-stunned-by-red-card Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted August 10, 2015 Yes maybe Doyle did turn left a bit earlier then normal,we agree on that but he had to take a tight line because of his team mate on the outside.yes Doyle maybe should of been more aware as ive said earlier,but Nicki had made up his mind sometime yesterday that he was coming(in a straight line)no matter what,with no get out plan.You cant just do that when you are not in the lead,with the home riders in front of you,and expect to get away with it,Doyle had every right to move across and Nicki should really have waited for a better chance to path. What are you talking about?? Doyle has every right to come across INTO another rider.. but Nicki doesn't have the right to ride in a straight line?? The point is Nicki was in the lead when the contact occurred, so on all counts, you've blown your own argument! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,412 Posted August 10, 2015 Any views on this comment by Nicki Pedersen? http://www.speedwaygp.com/news/article/4366/nicki-stunned-by-red-card Yes maybe Doyle did turn left a bit earlier then normal,we agree on that but he had to take a tight line because of his team mate on the outside.yes Doyle maybe should of been more aware as ive said earlier,but Nicki had made up his mind sometime yesterday that he was coming(in a straight line)no matter what,with no get out plan.You cant just do that when you are not in the lead,with the home riders in front of you,and expect to get away with it,Doyle had every right to move across and Nicki should really have waited for a better chance to path.The problem with Doyle turning left early was that Nicki was virtually 3/4 way past him ,he was not in front of Nicki. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agrotron 955 Posted August 10, 2015 Yes maybe Doyle did turn left a bit earlier then normal,we agree on that but he had to take a tight line because of his team mate on the outside.yes Doyle maybe should of been more aware as ive said earlier,but Nicki had made up his mind sometime yesterday that he was coming(in a straight line)no matter what,with no get out plan.You cant just do that when you are not in the lead,with the home riders in front of you,and expect to get away with it,Doyle had every right to move across and Nicki should really have waited for a better chance to path. Hahaha this person is a joker right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark 1,497 Posted August 11, 2015 Doyle just did a worse move than Pedersen in the Swedish League.. No red card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
screm 8,069 Posted August 11, 2015 For those who are defending Mr Doyle will need to see what he`s just done to Linus Eklof in Sweden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave the Mic 258 Posted August 11, 2015 (edited) I have looked at the pics & watched the clip. The pics don't do Doyle's position any favours - he appears to stick his leg out, whilst the clip doesn't do Pedersen's position any favours as he appears to go straight on, when perhaps he should be turning. In his release, he says he was right on the white line, but wasn't. I could see a referee calling that either way & if it was in the first turn, it could have been all 4 back. However if Pedersen was red carded for the crash, that's daft. Difficult to comment on the pit incident as it was probably six & two threes and neither was likely admit to being wrong. Storm in a tea cup really & some of the comments on here toward both riders are a little harsh. Comment regarding Doyle's taking out Eklof is correct, but not relevant, as it is a different type of clash, although I would say that he does that quite a bit - at least twice in GP's I can recall already. About the comment "Doyle being a "pussy" & "pussyway", I would say 2 things. You're joking, right? If you think anyone who races a speedway bike is a pussy, at best you're being disrespectful, at worst downright insulting. Speedway riders are among the bravest sportsmen around. Period. At the same time, Pedersen does seem to want it all his own way. He is the first to dish out hard riding & then defend it as just that - hard but fair racing, but in the Swedish match tonight, he was on the receiving end of two hard but fair pieces of racing & bleated like a child after each, in one race actually retiring having been pushed to the back. The reality is, if you live by the sword, you die by the sword. Doyle found that out tonight with 2 exclusions, so did Pedersen - very much on the receiving end of some of his own "hard but fair" treatment & didn't like it. Can't have it all ways, Nicki! Edited August 11, 2015 by Dave the Mic 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arson fire 4,785 Posted August 11, 2015 What did he say when he bleated on after the races?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghostwalker 1,859 Posted August 11, 2015 The reality is, if you live by the sword, you die by the sword. Doyle found that out tonight with 2 exclusions. Doyle only got excluded for taking Peter K out, the other exclusion was for riding inside the white line. I can agree with that Nicki need to be better at accepting others being hard on him and etc but this doesn't change the impression that he is judged differently. It also does not change the fact that someone like Greg who are very eager to find an excuse to criticize Nicki, never seem to be bothered when other riders then Nicki is riding too hard. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odds On 373 Posted August 12, 2015 lets be honest NP isn't part of the speedway riders clique that is becoming oh so apparent in the sport. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted August 12, 2015 lets be honest NP isn't part of the speedway riders clique that is becoming oh so apparent in the sport. Yes, Monster stick with Monster. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites