Aces51 2,778 Posted September 24, 2015 Is it so difficult to grasp that many believe, including some of their own fans, that Poole have a history of using, shall we say, dubious tactics. Is it then a surprise that when an out of form rider is replaced by a guest, who most believed would score more, that people are suspicious and likely to believe the worst. It's human nature. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdmc82 2,878 Posted September 24, 2015 Lets hope both teams track their original team and we get a fair final, will Zagar aggravate his injury in the gp without having a fall. Not sure why all this nastiness by people towards Zagar. He was in hospital (Fact) and is still having blood drained from his hip/groin (fact) I'm sure Belle Vue would love to have him on Monday but it's more important that he heals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Jones 2,127 Posted September 24, 2015 Not sure why all this nastiness by people towards Zagar. He was in hospital (Fact) and is still having blood drained from his hip/groin (fact) I'm sure Belle Vue would love to have him on Monday but it's more important that he heals. I read that he has been a bloody drain on Belle Vue's resources for a couple of years now. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E I Addio 15,845 Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) I read that he has been a bloody drain on Belle Vue's resources for a couple of years now. I worry for you if you don't know who the forum idiots (i.e. those that spend their time constantly ridiculing, panning, slating and hammering) Poole are I am not asking you to worry for me I am simply asking you for the forth time to name the names of those who in your opinion are the forum idiots. To put it another way round, I would say the idiots are those who make extravagant claims then duck and dive instead of giving a straight answer when challenged, which is what you are starting to do now. Idiocy is not ,I limited to those outside Poole. Red Panda made a complete idiot of herself before she suddenly went quiet, and I think most would agree that Starman is where the buses don't run.. I notice that nobody has taken the challenge as of yet As said before, the issue is that Ford has such a disreputable history that we have reached the point that nobody believes a word he says. I doubt that I that anybody could specifically prove he was cheating on this occasion but I doubt that anybody could prove he has not manipulated the situation either. It is just yet another distasteful event with. Ford at the bottom of, it, like the. TtHJ, episode, like the Joe Screen episode and plenty of others that is turning fans off the sport. Most people are not Poole haters, they just like to see a reasonable degree of fair play. Edited September 24, 2015 by E I Addio 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Jones 2,127 Posted September 24, 2015 I am not asking you to worry for me I am simply asking you for the forth time to name the names of those who in your opinion are the forum idiots. To put it another way round, I would say the idiots are those who make extravagant claims then duck and dive instead of giving a straight answer when challenged, which is what you are starting to do now. Idiocy is not ,I limited to those outside Poole. Red Panda made a complete idiot of herself before she suddenly went quiet, and I think most would agree that Starman is where the buses don't run.. As said before, the issue is that Ford has such a disreputable history that we have reached the point that nobody believes a word he says. I doubt that I that anybody could specifically prove he was cheating on this occasion but I doubt that anybody could prove he has not manipulated the situation either. It is just yet another distasteful event with. Ford at the bottom of, it, like the. TtHJ, episode, like the Joe Screen episode and plenty of others that is turning fans off the sport. Most people are not Poole haters, they just like to see a reasonable degree of fair play. Well Mr Addio, if you have quoted my post as an example of idiocy, i would suggest that you loosen up a little and try to develop a sense of humour 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris4gillian 1,832 Posted September 24, 2015 I am not asking you to worry for me I am simply asking you for the forth time to name the names of those who in your opinion are the forum idiots. To put it another way round, I would say the idiots are those who make extravagant claims then duck and dive instead of giving a straight answer when challenged, which is what you are starting to do now. Idiocy is not ,I limited to those outside Poole. Red Panda made a complete idiot of herself before she suddenly went quiet, and I think most would agree that Starman is where the buses don't run.. As said before, the issue is that Ford has such a disreputable history that we have reached the point that nobody believes a word he says. I doubt that I that anybody could specifically prove he was cheating on this occasion but I doubt that anybody could prove he has not manipulated the situation either. It is just yet another distasteful event with. Ford at the bottom of, it, like the. TtHJ, episode, like the Joe Screen episode and plenty of others that is turning fans off the sport. Most people are not Poole haters, they just like to see a reasonable degree of fair play. For the fourth (forth??) time I don't need to name them as they stand out like a spare todger at a wedding! And unfortunately one or two of our own supporters fall into that category too. And EUREKA he's got it! Is it so difficult to grasp that many believe, including some of their own fans, that Poole have a history of using, shall we say, dubious tactics. Is it then a surprise that when an out of form rider is replaced by a guest, who most believed would score more, that people are suspicious and likely to believe the worst. It's human nature. In this instance he replaced a rider with a medical certificate, the fact he was 'out of form' (in your opinion) is irrelevant. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E I Addio 15,845 Posted September 24, 2015 Well Mr Addio, if you have quoted my post as an example of idiocy, i would suggest that you loosen up a little and try to develop a sense of humour Nope . wasn't quoting your post as an example. In fact it didn't even cross my mind, so no fingers pointed at you as far as I am concerned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted September 24, 2015 Not sure why all this nastiness by people towards Zagar. He was in hospital (Fact) and is still having blood drained from his hip/groin (fact) I'm sure Belle Vue would love to have him on Monday but it's more important that he heals. Great. So healing physically is more important than healing psychologically?? In your world I guess I can see that logic!! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted September 24, 2015 Not sure why all this nastiness by people towards Zagar. He was in hospital (Fact) and is still having blood drained from his hip/groin (fact) I'm sure Belle Vue would love to have him on Monday but it's more important that he heals. I agree if that is the truth but i also think it suits Belle Vue to use a fully fit and in form Jonsson. If Poole are open to criticism regarding North's situation then i don't think Zagar's situation should go unchallenged. Great. So healing physically is more important than healing psychologically?? In your world I guess I can see that logic!! You beat me to it!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odds On 373 Posted September 24, 2015 this forum will go into meltdown next week if Bomber guests for Poole! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted September 24, 2015 No rider reaching the play-offs can be used by another team in the play-offs - its a rule (17.7.2 I think?!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Game On 1,117 Posted September 24, 2015 No rider reaching the play-offs can be used by another team in the play-offs - its a rule (17.7.2 I think?!)We're not in the playoffs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g13webb 4,254 Posted September 24, 2015 I notice that nobody has taken the challenge as of yet A challenge? No just common sense... Never have I read such rubbish from deluded posters as I have on this subject. You come on here preaching the gospel according to Saint Matt Ford, as though he is the greatest person to walk this earth. So let me assure you, he is no saint in my eyes. Because of his previous history and stunts he pulled, he is a person I dislike intensely. He don’t give a damn about the sport or the people he offends. His only concern is Matt Ford and Poole speedway. Sod anyone else who gets in his way. This latest stunt is amazing, in that the BSPA and the MC have allowed it to happen. A Speedway Rider is not like any other profession, he is self-employed and his sole aim is to ride bikes. The replacement rules are quite explicit, and everyone expects riders to race every match, that is with the exception of when injured or incapacitated. That’s how it has always been. For Poole to be given a facility to use a guest when his rider is not injured, will now set a president for the future and riders will be able to withdraw from any meeting they don’t feel up to. Yeah, I know he was given a ‘Doctor’s Certificate’, but they’re 10 a penny and mean nothing. When I go to our local Surgery, there’s a list inside the door of all the costings of various certificates. The simple plain one from the Doctor cost £18.50, and industrial one costs £35.00. It’s purely a money spinner and means nothing. I wonder how long it will be before we hear, Sorry fans, ‘Rider A’ had a real bad Headache, and the Doctor advised him not to fly, But don’t worry we have someone else, ‘Rider B’ taking his place in the team. Before long, teams will be able to field who they like, and whatever fans left, will have no connection with them at all. Thank Matt Ford for that…… The said accident to North Sen. is unfortunate, and I feel for the family. But if Ford wanted to show compassion, he could have rested Dakota and brought in a PL 6pointers for the 2nd leg against Coventry’s depleted side. Everyone would have applauded him for his gesture. But this is Matt Ford we are talking about. He has no compassion, he cares nothing of how Dakota was feeling. All Matt Ford was concerned about was his lack of scoring in the first leg. Bringing in Kennett was corrupt and bent the rules, from what they were intended, but it added illegal strength to the side. This point was highlighted when…. Mildo, the puppet that he is, was asked ‘Would Kennett be riding in the final’ he replied we haven’t decided yet, Not we will wait to see how North is feeling…… Any rider, Dakota North included, will always want to ride a bike. They know nothing else. It becomes second nature to them. Every rider who experiences problems will tell you they need to get back on the bike SAP. If North had received bad news, he would have wanted to ride, just to get away from the traumas inside his head. Make no mistake, Ford did what Ford wanted and had nothing to do with the feeling of Dakota. He was used merely as an excuse….. A speedway supporter of many years, I have the utmost respect for all riders, including those at Poole. It is a wonderful sport that creates much excitement. Poole was once a genuine club that everyone respected, but not anymore. Ford has seen to that. Every other speedway supporter in the land feels the same way towards them, and they can’t all be wrong. We have been called Idiots, we have been called Jealous, in fact we have been called many uncouth names. But it doesn’t matter. It’s such a pity that Fords disciples can see no further than the end of their noses, because they would then all see the wrongs he contently does… I don’t tar all the Poole supporters with the same brush……… But they’re a bloody lot I do… 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aces51 2,778 Posted September 24, 2015 For the fourth (forth??) time I don't need to name them as they stand out like a spare todger at a wedding! And unfortunately one or two of our own supporters fall into that category too. And EUREKA he's got it! In this instance he replaced a rider with a medical certificate, the fact he was 'out of form' (in your opinion) is irrelevant. Comprehension is clearly a problem. I am not and have not challenged the veracity of the North situation. If you look back at my posts you will find I said we should wait until evidence was forthcoming before forming an opinion. The point I am trying to make and which I am sure most grasp, is that you cannot blame people being suspicious of an organisation which, by your own admission, has done things in the past which justify that suspicion. It is the organizational which is to blame not those who subsequently question their credibility. That does not mean that I approve of the more childish and extreme comments, they are not justified. As for North, it is not my opinion that he was out of form, his recent scores prove it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Game On 1,117 Posted September 24, 2015 What about your own reputation of spouting lies and not being able to man up and admit you were wrong, despite the fact you have not tried to backup proving YOUR accusations. Guess you're just not man enough. Game Over for you. What exactly have I lied about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites