Halifaxtiger 5,318 Posted July 17, 2016 Fantastic meeting... with Edinburgh having all the luck. The racing was simply brilliant, one of the best meetings this year, just a shame it ended like it did. Would've been a different result had the ref rightly called heat 12, no way did clegg win that... and Fisher should've been excluded from heat 10, racing incident yes, he didn't deliberately mean to rear up, however it was dangerous, it impeded Ryan Douglas.. if it wasn't for Ryans awareness it would of resulted in a massive off for both riders. That said, congrats to both teams, was one hell of a meeting. Scunny rode under protest with regards to Mitchell Daveys inclusion... so we'll have to wait and see the outcome of that. I thought Kerr won that one too but my view wasn't perfect so I asked someone at the tapes at the end. They said Clegg got it. I, too, thought Fisher should have been excluded. He was at 45 degrees across the track and it shouldn't take a crash for a rider to be disqualified. I also thought that Douglas caused Kerr to fall in heat 15 and he should have gone rather than Kerr. Mitchell Davey is declared in Coventry's NL team. As far as I can see he is an NL guest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allthegearbutnaeidea 1,744 Posted July 17, 2016 (edited) I thought Kerr won that one too but my view wasn't perfect so I asked someone at the tapes at the end. They said Clegg got it. I, too, thought Fisher should have been excluded. He was at 45 degrees across the track and it shouldn't take a crash for a rider to be disqualified. I also thought that Douglas caused Kerr to fall in heat 15 and he should have gone rather than Kerr. Mitchell Davey is declared in Coventry's NL team. As far as I can see he is an NL guest. There's a rule where if a NL rider ever achieved a 4 PL average he is not allowed to guest in the PL?!?! EDIT- Just checked and that rule is that you are not allowed to guest as a NL only guest in PL if you have ever achieved more than a 4, I don't think Davey ever has anyways Edited July 17, 2016 by allthegearbutnaeidea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer sam 3,960 Posted July 17, 2016 (edited) There's a rule where if a NL rider ever achieved a 4 PL average he is not allowed to guest in the PL?!?! EDIT- Just checked and that rule is that you are not allowed to guest as a NL only guest in PL if you have ever achieved more than a 4, I don't think Davey ever has anyways You mean this one: 18.10 FACILITIES a1) Absent #1: G or RR a2) Absent D-U or EDR (if riding for the “other” team) G or RR b ) 1 Absent rider (2 – 5): RR c) More than 1 Absent rider (1 - 5) 1 x RR facility and G for all others d) Absent #6 or #7: G e) “No Facility”: NL G* NL G*: a rider eligible for a NL Team who has never achieved an actual PL MA of 4.00 or above A quick check of the BSPA website shows that Mitchell Davey's average has gone above 4.00 in the past. For example, I spotted that his GSA for October 2009 was 4.23. All the best Rob Edited July 17, 2016 by lucifer sam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allthegearbutnaeidea 1,744 Posted July 17, 2016 You mean this one: 18.10 FACILITIES a1) Absent #1: G or RR a2) Absent D-U or EDR (if riding for the other team) G or RR b ) 1 Absent rider (2 5): RR c) More than 1 Absent rider (1 - 5) 1 x RR facility and G for all others d) Absent #6 or #7: G e) No Facility: NL G* NL G*: a rider eligible for a NL Team who has never achieved an actual PL MA of 4.00 or above A quick check of the BSPA website shows that Mitchell Davey's average has gone above 4.00 in the past. For example, I spotted that his GSA for October 2009 was 4.23. All the best Rob What facility was granted for them though, wouldn't it of been D and not E Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone 946 Posted July 17, 2016 (edited) I thought Kerr won that one too but my view wasn't perfect so I asked someone at the tapes at the end. They said Clegg got it. I, too, thought Fisher should have been excluded. He was at 45 degrees across the track and it shouldn't take a crash for a rider to be disqualified. I also thought that Douglas caused Kerr to fall in heat 15 and he should have gone rather than Kerr. Mitchell Davey is declared in Coventry's NL team. As far as I can see he is an NL guest. And Davey is also a UK Passport Holder, whose last PL GSA was 3.00, and is not in any other PL team's declared 1 - 7. If it was somehow ruled that only Dan Bewley was eligible to ride at Scunny today, then would that mean that Bewley's 13 for BV Colts at Buxton this afternoon would also be annulled? Edited July 17, 2016 by cyclone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ecksact 14 Posted July 17, 2016 Let the mitch-hunt recommence! Would've been funnier if he'd ridden for Ipswich! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halifaxtiger 5,318 Posted July 17, 2016 What facility was granted for them though, wouldn't it of been D and not E Probably not, given that the missing rider is one of the development ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer sam 3,960 Posted July 17, 2016 (edited) What facility was granted for them though, wouldn't it of been D and not E Edinburgh opted through choice not to use Bewley today, so E applies. You don't get a facility if you choose not to use a rider. Ironically, I think Davey is eligible to ride at No 7, but not to guest for someone else under 18.10 e) All the best Rob Edited July 17, 2016 by lucifer sam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewy 2,354 Posted July 17, 2016 Monarchs manipulating the rules nothing wrong with that apparently! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allthegearbutnaeidea 1,744 Posted July 17, 2016 Edinburgh opted through choice not to use Bewley today, so E applies. All the best Rob oosha, see ya 3 points for Edinburgh hahahahahaha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer sam 3,960 Posted July 17, 2016 Monarchs manipulating the rules nothing wrong with that apparently! Lewy, difference between manipulating them and breaking them. All the best Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheScotsman 2,484 Posted July 17, 2016 Did Tom Perry not average over 4 in the PL on the past? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,457 Posted July 17, 2016 Confusion about the rules,surely not !!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Albert 304 Posted July 17, 2016 I thought Kerr won that one too but my view wasn't perfect so I asked someone at the tapes at the end. They said Clegg got it. I, too, thought Fisher should have been excluded. He was at 45 degrees across the track and it shouldn't take a crash for a rider to be disqualified. I also thought that Douglas caused Kerr to fall in heat 15 and he should have gone rather than Kerr. Mitchell Davey is declared in Coventry's NL team. As far as I can see he is an NL guest. I was in the box, had a great view of it... Kerr got it by a tyre width... Unfortunately the ref chose otherwise. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer sam 3,960 Posted July 17, 2016 Did Tom Perry not average over 4 in the PL on the past? It doesn't matter, because he's not a guest! Mitchell Davey's average was 4.23 at one point during 2009, as this reveals: http://www.speedwaygb.co/premierleagueteams09 Might have gone even higher than that at some point - I'm sure some Glasgow fans might have a full month-by-month summary of his averages. All the nest Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites