BluTiger 21,719 Posted March 21, 2017 anybody know the difference between Chris holders and Danny kings averages. http://www.speedwaygb.co/files/downloads/2017_team_building_alphabetical.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clive Ward 181 Posted March 22, 2017 http://www.speedwaygb.co/files/downloads/2017_team_building_alphabetical.pdfThanks for the link http://www.speedwaygb.co/files/downloads/2017_team_building_alphabetical.pdfThanks for the link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g13webb 4,254 Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) Still not converted on the fairness of the 1.4 loading of EL riders yet. Yes I understand the logic and the reason why it had to be done, but don't necessarily agree with it. From my viewpoint there are an awful lot of riders who raced in both leagues and the comparable CMA's are so variable. Some riders performed better in the EL and some in the PL, but it is the PL scores that are being used for team building purposes. Obviously those riders with better performances in the EL are a better acquisition than those who performed better in the PL On the face of it teams using riders with PL scores will have a better chance of retaining their scores than those teams with EL riders and their loaded averages. Sure there will be a slight drop due to the stiffer competition, but nothing like the 40 % extra that some have been loaded with. I appreciate this was for team building only and yes, the first set of figures will be interesting reading to see the effects of what is expected to happen. On the face of it there are an abundance of riders within the 6-7pt category the this could be the area where the biggest changes will come from. KL have selected 4 riders with this loaded CMA's, I don't know how that compares with other clubs. I cant imagine there will be teams with any more than that. When I look at each teams strengths, in comparison to others, I don't think about their averages, just my opinion and perception of each rider / team.... and this is what is most intriguing in that there are many teams comparable with the others in the league and that has to be good for the sport.... (Edited: Altered to suit a query) Edited March 22, 2017 by GRW123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve0 5,517 Posted March 22, 2017 Still not converted on the fairness of the 1.4 loading of EL riders yet. Yes I understand the logic and the reason why it had to be done, but don't necessarily agree with it. From my viewpoint there are an awful lot of riders who raced in both leagues and the comparable CMA's are so variable. Some riders performed better in the EL and some in the PL, but it is the PL scores that are being used for team building purposes. Obviously those riders with better performances in the EL are a better acquisition than those who performed better in the PL On the face of it teams using riders with PL scores will have a better chance of retaining their scores than those teams with EL riders and their loaded averages. Sure there will be a slight drop due to the stiffer competition, but nothing like the 1.4 % that some have been loaded with. I appreciate this was for team building only and yes, the first set of figures will be interesting reading to see the effects of what is expected to happen. On the face of it there are an abundance of riders within the 6-7pt category the this could be the area where the biggest changes will come from. KL have selected 4 riders with this loaded CMA's, I don't know how that compares with other clubs. I cant imagine there will be teams with any more than that. When I look at each teams strengths, in comparison to others, I don't think about their averages, just my opinion and perception of each rider / team.... and this is what is most intriguing in that there are many teams comparable with the others in the league and that has to be good for the sport.... 1.4 is a multiplier - not a percentage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g13webb 4,254 Posted March 22, 2017 1.4 is a multiplier - not a percentage. Sorry for the misprint, I was aware of that, it didn't show up the way I wanted it to. Have since altered it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnboy 254 Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) Is press and practice still on tonight ? Just seen that it is the juniors today Edited March 22, 2017 by lynnboy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevehone 3,437 Posted March 22, 2017 Is press and practice still on tonight ? Just seen that it is the juniors today it was Young Stars this afternoon, but no track action Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnboy 254 Posted March 22, 2017 it was Young Stars this afternoon, but no track action Any news on the replacement number 1 ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,151 Posted March 22, 2017 Dump Holder sign Danny King and with the points available sign a much stronger no7IN place In place of Holder & Bailey they could fit on King & Wilkinson! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevehone 3,437 Posted March 22, 2017 Any news on the replacement number 1 ? 1 Josh Bailey 2 Lewis Whitmore 3 Ryan Kinsley 4 Scott Campos 5 Danny Phillips 6 Connor Locke 7 Taylor Hampshire not sure if Scott has plans to continue riding, but for now he is 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProudtobeaBrummie 646 Posted March 22, 2017 In place of Holder & Bailey they could fit on King & Wilkinson! king and bates would be better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Scrutton 180 Posted March 22, 2017 Many of members of the forum seem to seeking to replace Holder is his signing in doubt??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,296 Posted March 22, 2017 Many of members of the forum seem to seeking to replace Holder is his signing in doubt??? I doubt it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gemini 4,894 Posted March 22, 2017 Many of members of the forum seem to seeking to replace Holder is his signing in doubt??? Probably because the British Champion is without a team place. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,831 Posted March 23, 2017 And because of the Polish nonsense Holder is tied up in. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
