John Leslie 3,213 Posted October 30, 2016 Speedway shooting itself in the foot again. Referee should be reprimanded for this massive error. Birmingham will have given their (illegal) lineup to Eastbourne and the SCB referee 5 days ago. It's the referee's responsibilty to check that it is legal. Amazed that Drury made such a mistake, but it should have been checked by the referee days ago, to give Drury time to source a legal replacement 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruckerroo 792 Posted October 30, 2016 Isnt it funny how the first press release from either club was about 4 pm yest from brum and sometime today from eastbourne. Fishy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brummie Kev 519 Posted October 30, 2016 At end of the day you can all point your fingers at Graham Drury and blame him for not knowing rules. However teams are announced in advance, not an hour in advance like football. So why didnt Eastbourne protest as soon as they saw our team or better still why didnt the SCB say anything. Instead lets wait until the rider gets there and the fans get into the stadium. Shambles 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Leslie 3,213 Posted October 30, 2016 (edited) At end of the day you can all point your fingers at Graham Drury and blame him for not knowing rules. However teams are announced in advance, not an hour in advance like football. So why didnt Eastbourne protest as soon as they saw our team or better still why didnt the SCB say anything. Instead lets wait until the rider gets there and the fans get into the stadium. Shambles Correct. This shambles is down to the SCB. The rules are;- At least 5 days before the meeting the home team (Eastbourne) must give their line-up to the away team (Birmingham). Within 24 hours of the above, Birmingham must respond with their line-up to Eastbourne. At least 3 days before the meeting Eastbourne advise the full line-ups to the SCB and referee via a hidden section of the SCB website. I'm told that this all happened exactly as it should. From there it is up to the referee to use the 3 days to check that that the line-ups are legal......( Clearly the referee failed here and should be reprimanded). If either team have any protests about the opposition line up, they have to be made at least 24 hours before the start. Not sure if/when Eastbourne protested, but for a protest to be upheld it must have been before 6.30pm Saturday which surely gave Drury enough time to find a replacement? If no protest was made before 6.30pm on Saturday, then surely Shanes should ride even if it is illegal because it has been accepted by the SCB and opposition. Under no circumstances should it get to the stage of today's farce where the paying public are cheated Edited October 30, 2016 by John Leslie 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Countershaftcounter 360 Posted October 30, 2016 Judge tryIng to pull a fast one, Brummie fans pointing the blame everywhere but close to home. Schoolboy error from GD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_martin 1,606 Posted October 30, 2016 ...So why didnt Eastbourne protest as soon as they saw our team or better still why didnt the SCB say anything. Instead lets wait until the rider gets there and the fans get into the stadium. Shambles Because Eastbourne were desparate to win this meeting and from their point of view didn't want to allow Drury to get off scott free for making an illegal guest booking. At the end of the day, it's a schoolboy error on Drury's part. We can blame all and sundry over it as much as we like, but there were even people on BSF debating this rule days ago. If the great unwashed of BSF know this rule you have to expect an experienced team manager to know the rule too, and abide by it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Countershaftcounter 360 Posted October 30, 2016 At end of the day you can all point your fingers at Graham Drury and blame him for not knowing rules. However teams are announced in advance, not an hour in advance like football. So why didnt Eastbourne protest as soon as they saw our team or better still why didnt the SCB say anything. Instead lets wait until the rider gets there and the fans get into the stadium. Shambles Surely it's not down to the opposition to check if your team is legal, I thought the genius that is GD should do that . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John Leslie 3,213 Posted October 30, 2016 Surely it's not down to the opposition to check if your team is legal, I thought the genius that is GD should do that . It's down to the SCB referee to check. If the referee doesn't find a mistake, the opposition can protest up to 24 hours before start time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedy bill 154 Posted October 30, 2016 (edited) Oh dear Mr Jury NOT AS CLEVER AS YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE. cOULD NOT HAPPEN TO A NICER MAN Bring back Alan Phillips and co Edited October 30, 2016 by bw double Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zlata prilba 320 Posted October 30, 2016 (edited) Oh dear Mr Jury NOT AS CLEVER AS YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE. cOULD NOT HAPPEN TO A NICER MAN Bring back Alan Phillips and co dickhead so it ok fleece fans over season ticket money and not paying the riders like Phillips Edited October 30, 2016 by zlata prilba 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KIRKYLANE 537 Posted October 30, 2016 I feel very sorry for any Birmingham fans that made the journey only to find that Shanes could not ride. Massive blunder by Drury ( I assume he sorted out the team ) which makes the Sport look completely amateurish. Although Eastbourne deserve their win it does have a slight hollow feel to it as Birmingham's blunder turned the result to Eastbourne without a doubt. If Birmingham had named a legal guest then the match could have gone either way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedway28 171 Posted October 30, 2016 Unbelievable that people are moaning at Eastbourne. Eastbourne are clearly within their rights to prevent Brum using Shanes. Like Drury wouldn't have done the exact same thing!! Can't believe he's not spotted such a basic rule. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex2000 266 Posted October 30, 2016 They knew Shanes was booked a while ago why wait until now to object....desperate or what! well it's more that you have a manager that doesn't know the rules! That and nominating ritchings for 15 the other day when he is ineligible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solrac 313 Posted October 30, 2016 Congratulations Eagles, another season another trophy, could get used to this! Unlucky JPB, who didn't deserve to be on the losing team after such a great showing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
00000 1,279 Posted October 30, 2016 Looks like some on here jumped to conclusions over the James Shanes affair. People suggested Eastbourne protested. They didn't. It's a strange rule: it was legal for birmingham to have Davey as No 1 two Wednesdays running for the home meeting but not legal to have Shanes twice in eight days for the away meeting. Seems the eight-day rule only applies to away teams. That's what was pointed out on here; pity someone didn't tip the Brummies off as to what was going on. Also fair to point out, there was reference to it on social media as well in the middle of the week. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
