tellboy 3,666 Posted September 8, 2017 Very good final.What could the meeting have been like had it not rained. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,740 Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vqxizb01Kw all heats short version - Polish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqwp-B2zfgc Edited September 9, 2017 by racers and royals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,382 Posted September 8, 2017 Too many 'big lines' !!!! Does my head in with repeating himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted September 9, 2017 Amazing that the Aussies are willing to ride on it really....bet they wouldn't if it was a U.K. League meetingAmazing that riders are willing to race in poor conditions with a world title at stake?I bet PC wouldn't have raced in conditions like he did in the world final in 77 with his injured leg if it was a league meeting. Amazing how Jenny carter was willing to race in the wet at Brandon with a broken leg in 84 but missed league meetings. And who wants to see league meetings "raced" in conditions like that anyway? Scores after round 2- final round Pardubice 29th September Drabik 31 Smektala 30 Fricke 28 Lambert 24 Kurtz 24 Real shame Lambert was riding injured in the first one or he'd be really in the mix for the title 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Lady 5,400 Posted September 9, 2017 Amazing that riders are willing to race in poor conditions with a world title at stake? I bet PC wouldn't have raced in conditions like he did in the world final in 77 with his injured leg if it was a league meeting. Amazing how Jenny carter was willing to race in the wet at Brandon with a broken leg in 84 but missed league meetings. And who wants to see league meetings "raced" in conditions like that anyway? Real shame Lambert was riding injured in the first one or he'd be really in the mix for the title My point is if a track is dangerous it's dangerous. It doesn't matter what kind of meeting it is. If a world title meeting is rained off it will be rerun at some point exactly the same as a league meeting. I'd rather not see any meetings raced in conditions like that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobC 664 Posted September 9, 2017 (edited) My point is if a track is dangerous it's dangerous. It doesn't matter what kind of meeting it is. If a world title meeting is rained off it will be rerun at some point exactly the same as a league meeting. I'd rather not see any meetings raced in conditions like that. I agree with you 100% This meeting only went ahead because of TV and it was a World Final. Coverage was good, no problems with Youtube at all. Just Sam and his awful commentary. I see they are saying shoulder problems for Drabik, which if true isnt good, but could have been a whole lot worse. The Final in Pardubice is now set up nicely for a grandstand finish. Edited September 9, 2017 by BobC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted September 9, 2017 My point is if a track is dangerous it's dangerous. It doesn't matter what kind of meeting it is. If a world title meeting is rained off it will be rerun at some point exactly the same as a league meeting. I'd rather not see any meetings raced in conditions like that. And I agree. There are many world championship meeting taken place over the years that shouldn't have. But seemed to me your dig was aimed at the riders, not the people who pushed the meeting to take place. Apologies if that was not the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waytogo28 2,054 Posted September 9, 2017 It was the first time I had seen such a match live via You Tube. Excellent picture with no break up problems. So how is it funded? But of course it should not have been run in such conditions. The first 8 heats were Gate and Go because nothing else was possible. I understand that re-staging had many problems about it ( or was impossible ) but I have never seen a league match run in such conditions, so the track problem at the infamous KL V Poole "walkout" match were, as of nothing! Congratulations to Robert Lambert the most exciting rider on show and who may still get on the rostrum for a medal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Lady 5,400 Posted September 9, 2017 And I agree. There are many world championship meeting taken place over the years that shouldn't have. But seemed to me your dig was aimed at the riders, not the people who pushed the meeting to take place. Apologies if that was not the case. Both really. No one wins in those situations. The racing last night , final apart, was awful. I understand why the TV, organisers etc want to go ahead, not that I agree with them. It's the riders that wind me up tho. Had those conditions been at Poole say on Monday, do you honestly think Kurtz and Holder would ride? Of course they wouldn't, but the dangers are the same. Not really singling those two out, but they are involved in both meetings. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted September 9, 2017 A great final all to play for still cant believe Lambert got second in the final Smektala decent can really gate well and showed in the final he can mix it.Did you not know he can 'mix it'? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 21,012 Posted September 9, 2017 In my opinion the racing got slowly better as the meeting went on.The final was the best race,no doubt,but a few other races were at the very least,interesting.Have seen worse meetings for sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,740 Posted September 9, 2017 It was the first time I had seen such a match live via You Tube. Excellent picture with no break up problems. So how is it funded? But of course it should not have been run in such conditions. The first 8 heats were Gate and Go because nothing else was possible. I understand that re-staging had many problems about it ( or was impossible ) but I have never seen a league match run in such conditions, so the track problem at the infamous KL V Poole "walkout" match were, as of nothing! Congratulations to Robert Lambert the most exciting rider on show and who may still get on the rostrum for a medal. I will tell you exactly how it`s funded and I suggest a many people as possible email One sport to thank them for A providing official internet coverage B providing an English commentary as well biuro@onesport.eu The U21 finals this year are broadcast by Eleven- the polish TV company and the internet coverage uses their pictures. As Dave Rowe and Sam Ermolenko cover the SEC and best pairs(both Eurosport) for One sport they were the logical choices for the internet coverage. so One Sport didn`t need to do it but they have forked out on flights, hotel, wages etc to bring us internet coverage ( I have been asked to not use the "small river" word in any posts) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,382 Posted September 9, 2017 My point is if a track is dangerous it's dangerous. It doesn't matter what kind of meeting it is. If a world title meeting is rained off it will be rerun at some point exactly the same as a league meeting. I'd rather not see any meetings raced in conditions like that. Whilst I agree with your point,to be fair the riders weren't having major issues getting round the track held up well.The spectacle for the spectators was ruined though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted September 9, 2017 Both really. No one wins in those situations. The racing last night , final apart, was awful. I understand why the TV, organisers etc want to go ahead, not that I agree with them. It's the riders that wind me up tho. Had those conditions been at Poole say on Monday, do you honestly think Kurtz and Holder would ride? Of course they wouldn't, but the dangers are the same. Not really singling those two out, but they are involved in both meetings. But as I've pointed out, it's normal that riders will put up with more risk for a world title. Just like the KC and PC examples I gave. It's also why it annoys me when people complain about riders not racing in the wet anymore - why would fans want to watch meetings in such poor conditions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted September 9, 2017 I will tell you exactly how it`s funded and I suggest a many people as possible email One sport to thank them for A providing official internet coverage B providing an English commentary as well biuro@onesport.eu The U21 finals this year are broadcast by Eleven- the polish TV company and the internet coverage uses their pictures. As Dave Rowe and Sam Ermolenko cover the SEC and best pairs(both Eurosport) for One sport they were the logical choices for the internet coverage. so One Sport didn`t need to do it but they have forked out on flights, hotel, wages etc to bring us internet coverage ( I have been asked to not use the "small river" word in any posts) So you are saying FIM pays for it as a part of the promotion deal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
