Haza 1,774 Posted April 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: Troy has always been the same, will never change. As you say Buster has to take a large part of the blame for last year but we all know what Batchelor is like, these comments still come as no surprise to anybody and he is entitled to his say. All helps to get a bigger than average crowd when Batchelor visits with Swindon so well done Troy on that one . 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
semion 2,192 Posted April 6, 2018 As Bratcholar says he don’t give a stuff what the paying customer thinks of him. Newsflash... most don’t give a toss about what he thinks. Big ego but limited ability at the top level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
00000 1,279 Posted April 6, 2018 32 minutes ago, semion said: As Bratcholar says he don’t give a stuff what the paying customer thinks of him. Newsflash... most don’t give a toss about what he thinks. Big ego but limited ability at the top level. The comments should make the Stars v Robins one to watch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aces51 2,778 Posted April 6, 2018 Reading the article Bachelor wasn't complaining so much at being sacked, accepting that it is not a problem if you disagree about something but about the way in which it was done, so close to the deadline for team changes as to deny him any chance of getting a team place elsewhere. He also makes some comments about Chapman which are similar to what has been said by people on here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
semion 2,192 Posted April 6, 2018 I hope when Swindon visit that the fans don’t bother booing or throwing insults at the Aussie, just ignore him and treat him with the contempt he deserves. Will need to keep close eye on him with regard to sandpaper in his pocket. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martinmauger 584 Posted April 7, 2018 11 hours ago, Aces51 said: Reading the article Bachelor wasn't complaining so much at being sacked, accepting that it is not a problem if you disagree about something but about the way in which it was done, so close to the deadline for team changes as to deny him any chance of getting a team place elsewhere. He also makes some comments about Chapman which are similar to what has been said by people on here. Promoters have right to sign who they want within points limits, and sack them if comes down to it, but the way Batchelor & Holder were treat was well out of order IMO. Was surprised they didn't appeal to SCB, ACU or otherwise contest it in some way. Still, we all move on, water under the bridge and all that, hope both riders concerned, and every other rider, have good a safe season.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
semion 2,192 Posted April 7, 2018 Safe yes, good ? See both on the other side of their peak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted April 7, 2018 On 04/04/2018 at 3:23 AM, Sidney the robin said: Henka was some rider very quick indeed total class, along with Per Jonsson the two classiest Swede's we have seen since the ill fated Tommy Jansson. T Rick? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted April 7, 2018 1 hour ago, waiheke1 said: T Rick? Was not a a big fan but yes of course Tony Henka and Per both had superb riding styles just like Tommy Jansson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g13webb 4,254 Posted April 10, 2018 Having just watched the recording of Lublin v Lodz match, you realise just how antiquated our sport has become. Having travelled to most tracks in the UK, I am convince none of them would compare to that we saw last night. Its little wonder we have no supporters anymore, they are treated like maroons from afar with no consideration at all. At Lublin, all the fans were treated to a wonderful experience of exciting racing in a clean modern environment. Each had a seat, and a excellent vantage point, to watch the riders race on a beautifully prepared track, that looked the part.. The meeting ran like clock work. Thousands of supporters wearing team colours all added to the occasion. I accept the weather was a big factor, but even on a hot summers day we could never replicate that. In the UK, the Promotors (en-block) feel all they need to do, is to rely on the riders attraction to get the fans through the turnstiles. In Poland they get so much more,,,,, 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trees 2,814 Posted April 10, 2018 We've got what we've got, if we went to support our clubs with the same enthusiasm as Polish people, bought merchandise like they obviously do, were proud to support our team as they are, chanted and cheered our team like they do then we might have a different product on our hands. Their clubs have EVERYTHING going for them, support from every which way, TV, council, fans and sponsors. Every rider is desparate to get a ride out there as the rewards are good. They can't go wrong. Compare that to the UK! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,784 Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) You are right Trees, Poland has a much more helpful infrastructure but I think the contrasting fortunes of the two leagues emphasises how badly British Speedway has been mismanaged over the past 25-30 years. Huge opportunities missed by promoters not working together and instead looking out for themselves. We probably could have something similar to Poland or Sweden but it will take a lot of time and effort to build it up again, and a big change in approach. Edited April 10, 2018 by Bagpuss 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g13webb 4,254 Posted April 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Trees said: We've got what we've got, if we went to support our clubs with the same enthusiasm as Polish people, bought merchandise like they obviously do, were proud to support our team as they are, chanted and cheered our team like they do then we might have a different product on our hands. Their clubs have EVERYTHING going for them, support from every which way, TV, council, fans and sponsors. Every rider is desparate to get a ride out there as the rewards are good. They can't go wrong. Compare that to the UK! I think you would make a brilliant Speedway promoter as you only see it from their prospective. You are always backing them in there ways and find it difficult to understand those whose question them. If the product was that good the fans would come, If the prices represent VFM the fans would come, if we offered a good environment with plenty of enjoyment , probably the fans would come back. Waiting for the TV, the Councils, the sponsors to come on board will never happen until the product is greatly improved. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haza 1,774 Posted April 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, Trees said: We've got what we've got, if we went to support our clubs with the same enthusiasm as Polish people, bought merchandise like they obviously do, were proud to support our team as they are, chanted and cheered our team like they do then we might have a different product on our hands. Their clubs have EVERYTHING going for them, support from every which way, TV, council, fans and sponsors. Every rider is desparate to get a ride out there as the rewards are good. They can't go wrong. Compare that to the UK! It’s like anything in life it all stems from the top and works it way down to the bottom- if the BSPA to promoters enthusiasm is low the fans enthusiasm is low - we think just 15 heats is enough to attract fans which it clearly isn’t - it the whole race night experience that’s poor - also the Poles have weekends as there race days that makes a lot of difference to a Wednesday night the Poles also run a slick meeting 2 hours done and dusted we could learn so much but again we fail to to do so . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haza 1,774 Posted April 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, g13webb said: I think you would make a brilliant Speedway promoter as you only see it from their prospective. You are always backing them in there ways and find it difficult to understand those whose question them. If the product was that good the fans would come, If the prices represent VFM the fans would come, if we offered a good environment with plenty of enjoyment , probably the fans would come back. Waiting for the TV, the Councils, the sponsors to come on board will never happen until the product is greatly improved. Trees is the most blinkered speedway fan I no of lol never criticises the promotion and on delicate sudjects sits on the fence . As you say would make a great promoter or even politician Share this post Link to post Share on other sites