Belle Vue Vs Wolves, Nss, 27/9/17... Playoff Semi Final 2nd Leg.

[Call me wolfie 677]

No Fricke finished 2nd lol

 

All your riders can cover JT, we need to cover 1 of max rides with a reserve. We will miss max more than you miss JT. Also you have 13 big points in the bag so of course your favourites it's not even close. League results are not run on aggregate so can't be compared, having a 13 point lead during the meeting will push wolves along which you don't have in a league match.

It seems no one rates their chances of winning, just proves how tight it's going to be, could go either way imo

[Perton Wolf 396]

Belle Vue are very much favourites, we really don't have a good record at the NSS and with Masters half fit, R/R hampers us even more.

 

Would be an upset for Wolves to progress to the final to face Swindon.

[Perton Wolf 396]

It will be a major surprise if the big spending wolves can't defend a lucky 13 point lead against a patched up Belle Vue team. With Bewley having to withdraw from his Glasgow meeting after his ordeal on Monday and Tungate and Cook also falling victim to the horror track, not to mention risking Smith returning from a nasty injury, the odds are, according to the bookies at least, literally stacked against The Aces.

 

Three teams went 'all in' with the gp superstars in the close season and it looked like a waste of money as all three languished in the qualifiers. Bravely they chucked even more money at it to keep their season alive. It worked well for two of them but the owner ballesed it up at Kings Lynn to some effect, lol!

 

From reports, when it is cheap as chips to get in, the Swindon fans have been out in numbers supporting their team, while the wolves promotion are on record moaning about their crap support, although there have been unreliable reports of fans being turned away at a recent meeting? (probably jackanory?)

 

Oh well, at least the league cup final crowd should make up for it but don't forget to install the temporary grandstand, it would be a stupid mistake to have to turn fans away again wouldn't it?

 

Lucky sounds like a bit off - the lead probably and would've been more if Thorssell wasn't injured in heat 14!

Edited September 29, 2017 by Perton Wolf

[Grachan 7,362]

Yes but that's nothing compared to wolves missing JT over 2 legs

That wasn't your original point.

[Rob B 1,257]

Confirmed Jack Smith rides tonight. Rob Shuttleworth at number 8.

[foreverblue 6,096]

Nonsense you have 13 points to play with, wolves should do it without doubt. Past results mean nothing as they weren't 2 legs. Fricke out weakens us more than JT out weakens you. Wolves to lose we all know that.

 

JT is a big loss over 2 legs, especially at monmore. If a full strength Swindon should beat them.

Quite agree Fricke is a bigger loss than Thorssell but Thorssell did get paid 10 last time and rode well enough to make the final of the premiership riders so not a great deal in it but the advantage Wolves have is that Lindgren can take one of the r/r rides and Bjerre cannot which could be the difference.

[RobMcCaffery 2,752]

Won't need a coin toss. If it is rained off and it is decided they can't re-arrange it Wolves go through.

That's a relief. I'd heard that the £2 coin was busy elsewhere and they were going to have to find a €2 instead or use change-replacement of 4 50 pences.

Edited September 29, 2017 by Rob McCaffery

[foreverblue 6,096]

Confirmed Jack Smith rides tonight. Rob Shuttleworth at number 8.

This should make a difference but whether he can beat Greaves when coming back from injury is debatable.

[stevebrum 6,824]

No Fricke finished 2nd lol

 

All your riders can cover JT, we need to cover 1 of max rides with a reserve. We will miss max more than you miss JT. Also you have 13 big points in the bag so of course your favourites it's not even close. League results are not run on aggregate so can't be compared, having a 13 point lead during the meeting will push wolves along which you don't have in a league match.

Quite agree Fricke is a bigger loss than Thorssell but Thorssell did get paid 10 last time and rode well enough to make the final of the premiership riders so not a great deal in it but the advantage Wolves have is that Lindgren can take one of the r/r rides and Bjerre cannot which could be the difference.

Wolves don't have a great record at the NSS so it depends how you look at it.

Aces are more than capable of pulling back 13 points. Bewley may have to take an RR however he is more than capable of getting double figures. A huge difference having a big scoring reserve and that's where the Aces will win AFAIC.

[foreverblue 6,096]

That's a relief. I'd heard that the £2 coin was busy elsewhere and they were going to have to find a €2 instead or use change-replacement of 4 50 pences.

Brexit now means all euro's are banned.

[SPEEDY69 1,260]

This should be a comfortable Belle Vue win. I am not a fan of either team so I'm not playing any "we're the underdogs/NO we're the underdogs" game. They have the capability at home, without Fricke, to win easily. Masters has been poor recently but that's the only possible light for Wolves - if he produces good points they could progress but on the balance of probabilities I side with BV.

[foreverblue 6,096]

 

Wolves don't have a great record at the NSS so it depends how you look at it.

Aces are more than capable of pulling back 13 points. Bewley may have to take an RR however he is more than capable of getting double figures. A huge difference having a big scoring reserve and that's where the Aces will win AFAIC.

Riss is pretty decent rider though and I expect him to beat Smith at least a couple of times, it's a speedway meeting anything could happen, you only have to look at the Swindon meeting Monday, who would have thought Ellis score would be so low.

[Beowulf 1,513]

Confirmed Jack Smith rides tonight. Rob Shuttleworth at number 8.

A no 8 ? That's unheard of these days. Well done the Aces.

[The Cheese 2,025]

So Shuttleworth is now missing from the Colts' play-off semi final to be at number 8 and probably not needed for the Aces?

I assume any National League rider can now miss a meeting in that league to be included as a number 8 in a higher division

[bellevueace 913]

Thirteen is a big ask to pull back, with Fricke yes without I don't fancy us, Lindgren being able to take a r/r ride whilst Bjerre is not could clinch it as well as Smith just back from injury. As for our record against Wolves over the two league matches irrelevant really as was proven last season, Lindgren is the real class act on show and could easily go through the card, and lets not forget this is a play off and so far we have choked each time.