MattK 3,447 Posted June 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, iainb said: There... you have your answer I work two doors down from IMG. I might go there on Monday with my cost saving idea for their speedway coverage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,018 Posted June 3, 2018 1 minute ago, MattK said: I work two doors down from IMG. I might go there on Monday with my cost saving idea for their speedway coverage. perhaps you can suggest turning the picture off as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Lady 5,400 Posted June 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, iainb said: Star Lady... you're paying for the football No I'm paying to watch the speedway, which is broadcast by BT. football dictating the cost has nothing whatsoever to do with the quality or otherwise of speedway commentary. Nice try at diversion tactics tho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,018 Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Star Lady said: No I'm paying to watch the speedway, which is broadcast by BT. football dictating the cost has nothing whatsoever to do with the quality or otherwise of speedway commentary. Nice try at diversion tactics tho If that's what you want to believe and it makes you feel better, you go with it... I suggest you'd be better off getting a VPN and watching the free coverage streamed online. Also you misspelled "tho" it should be "though" or if you are going to abbreviate it use an apostrophe... I suggest you are sacked or at least banned from the forum! Edited June 3, 2018 by iainb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,821 Posted June 3, 2018 23 minutes ago, MattK said: How so? Speedway is four blokes going round in a circle. How much commentary does it really need? In my opinion less is more and I actually watched last night's meeting on my laptop without the sound. It didn't impact my enjoyment and I didn't have to put up with the commentary so many seem to be complaining about. The problem is new people have been tried several times ........ and they fail miserably because of lack of knowledge of the sport. It’s a total embarrassment. only this season Eurosport started their Polish coverage with a ‘new’ commentator who lasted a couple of weeks because his commentary was beyond shocking and clueless. Thankfully Dave Goddard is now doing it who is a speedway fan. speedway fans commentating is the only credible way. Im not ashamed to admit I’m a fan of Nigel and Kelvin and find their excitement and exuberance exciting and sums up our sport perfectly. Also what I’ve found in speedway is that fans like to moan about everything and anything. If there is a better commentator(s) out there put their names forward to BT as that’s the only way of making changes happen. our sport is too niche for any recognised commentator to do a credible job, facts that have been proven by those who have tried and failed. long like our current commentary team, and that includes Dave Goddard on other channels. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish McRaker 601 Posted June 3, 2018 1 hour ago, paulboy said: The beef is he’s a crap commentator that does nothing to enhance my enjoyment, quite the opposite I think Murray Walker might be available Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,367 Posted June 3, 2018 I think Nig is very knowledge and knows his stuff,but he just repeats himself it too often.Needs to take a more measured approach even if it means saying nothing at times,and stop shouting!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star Lady 5,400 Posted June 3, 2018 Just now, Fromafar said: I think Nig is very knowledge and knows his stuff,but he just repeats himself it too often.Needs to take a more measured approach even if it means saying nothing at times,and stop shouting!! Agree totally Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,018 Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Fromafar said: but he just repeats himself it too often. I can agree with that, but it must be difficult when there's nothing worth speaking about happening on track. Some time I do wish NP & KT would talk a little more in depth about the sport during the duller moments, talking about the machinery and engine tuners a little more... The shouting I can deal with when it is genuine excitement There I've done some criticism and offered an alternative Edited June 3, 2018 by iainb 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulboy 169 Posted June 3, 2018 17 minutes ago, stevebrum said: The problem is new people have been tried several times ........ and they fail miserably because of lack of knowledge of the sport. It’s a total embarrassment. only this season Eurosport started their Polish coverage with a ‘new’ commentator who lasted a couple of weeks because his commentary was beyond shocking and clueless. Thankfully Dave Goddard is now doing it who is a speedway fan. speedway fans commentating is the only credible way. Im not ashamed to admit I’m a fan of Nigel and Kelvin and find their excitement and exuberance exciting and sums up our sport perfectly. Also what I’ve found in speedway is that fans like to moan about everything and anything. If there is a better commentator(s) out there put their names forward to BT as that’s the only way of making changes happen. our sport is too niche for any recognised commentator to do a credible job, facts that have been proven by those who have tried and failed. long like our current commentary team, and that includes Dave Goddard on other channels. I agree, their commentary around heat 21 summed up speedway in a nutshell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE DEAN MACHINE 4,749 Posted June 3, 2018 So on to Tuesday, last night just didn’t do it for me at all but will Tuesday be the saviour of the SON ? I’m one of the very few people who are totally uninspired by the NSS, it’s a great track but the stadium is bland imo but anyway I’m trying to be neutral and give the SON a chance so Tuesday will have to be something special ortherwise scrap it and bring back the SWC, I’m not really bothered if GB get through as i I’m not a fan of two of our team and that’s putting it mildly ,I just want to see a good meeting, good racing and a tense finish, hopefully a good crowd but for me it’s too expensive to attend, so let’s see Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,665 Posted June 3, 2018 Speedway and commentary is a strange one. More often than not there's not much to comment on as we see 4 strung out rider's 'playing follow the leader.' I believe Nigel and Kelvin do a terrific job, yes they can be ott but what is there to talk about. Even during the breaks when they go back to Nicholls and Quirk, I find that very boring. Tend to just repeat all that's already been said. 3 hours to waffle over 23 minutes of racing isn't an easy task. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,367 Posted June 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, iainb said: I can agree with that, but it must be difficult when there's nothing worth speaking about happening on track. Some time I do wish NP & KT would talk a little more in depth about the sport during the duller moments, talking about the machinery and engine tuners a little more... The shouting I can deal with when it is genuine excitement There I've done some criticism and offered an alternative Agree,Kelvin should give some in depth information on technical stuff, like what he thinks riders change(in more depth).Theres Hancock saying in the SS this week that the number of fans at indoor meeting can effect the carbaration on bikes with the oxygen the suck in.Quite a lot of fans are interested in the technology IMO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE DEAN MACHINE 4,749 Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Agree,Kelvin should give some in depth information on technical stuff, like what he thinks riders change(in more depth).Theres Hancock saying in the SS this week that the number of fans at indoor meeting can effect the carbaration on bikes with the oxygen the suck in.Quite a lot of fans are interested in the technology IMO This goes back to the old argument of type of fans who watch speedway, fans like me are interested in that kind of thing but the majority of fans haven’t a clue about the mechanical side of the sport and are not interested, my Mrs is your typical speedway fan and switches off when i explain about the technical side, it’s not a motorsport it’s a sport on motorbikes, I don’t get the moaning about pearson and Tatum, just turn the sound down, although I watch the polish even though we have BT Edited June 3, 2018 by THE DEAN MACHINE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobMcCaffery 2,752 Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: NOT the best start, I must admit, but hopefully;y there will be far better racing at the NSS on Tuesday and then again in Wroclaw. The worst possible scenario, of course, is that after nearly 100 races we get to the final, Joe Bloggs is excluded for a tapes offence, and the two opposition guys ride round waving to the crowd knowing they cannot be beaten.What an anti-climax that would be. No doubt there will be a comprehensive post-mortem after Wroclaw but whether the FIM revert to the SWC or continue with the SON the lack of viability for tracks staging these events, especially the qualifiers, ,remains a big issue. As far as I know the only alternative to Wroclaw this year was Belle Vue but while Polish fans, given the popularity of speedway there and their fervent national enthusiasm, might support a two-day event cannot see it working anywhere else including the UK. The point about venue options is actually quite chilling. Have we really reached the situation where our supposedly premium events can only be staged on a handful of tracks? If so, why run them? Now, I've been in love wit the WTC since the Wembley thunderstorm in 1973 but if the only option is to switch to the rightly discarded World Pairs format then the time is sadly here to ditch the whole thing and just carry on with the GPs alone - and be more selective on venues there with choices based on excellence of venue, either for racing, accommodation or hopefully both, rather than political choices. Sadly sporting politics are even less pleasant than politics themselves, with the exception that nobody has to stand for election outside their own closed group. No it wasn't a good start. When have we ever had a classic on the German tracks? It's tempting to ask when we've ever had a simply memorable (for the right reasons) meeting.To them and other nations it's a Sunday afternoon amateur sport and they simply can't step up to the level required. That's been obvious since Norden. Instead we get the usual pious bilge about expanding the sport. I've watched this process long enough to know it just does not work and all it does is compromise the sport in the developed countries. How? It diverts riders from their league racing which despite the attempts to portray the sport as an individual one is the rock on which the sport was built nearly a century ago here and which was exported to great success elsewhere. I'm sure the Poles are only interested in anything other than their leagues unless the nation or an individual are winning. A track or nation should stage these events on merit. Edited June 3, 2018 by RobMcCaffery Share this post Link to post Share on other sites