Haza 1,774 Posted June 10, 2021 Think it’s time for everyone promoters riders fans to realise British Speedway is done in its current form it’s finished . when you get British riders who won’t ride in there own country it’s says it all Bewley will be next to ditch the UK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,292 Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Explain to me how it would work. Here's a couple of obstacles. 18 teams, 6 a side, 108 riders? Fixed race nights would be required Show me how you'd get around these You would need five man teams and it maybe could work? Four riders over three points and one lower than a three point rider.. Grade the four A to D and use an overall mean team average of all of the riders, so one side can't hoover up the best rider in each grade.. Race every team home and away = 34 matches. Split the 18 teams into two Conferences based on geography and ride home and away against all teams in your Conference... Meaning another 16 matches in total... 50 matches per rider, not including play offs, where the top four from each Conference can go into home and away play offs to determine the two 'Conference Champs', who then go forward to the Grand Final.. Meaning 56 meetings per rider if reaching the final.. 72 riders needed over 3 points and 18 needed below 3... Not checked how many there are this year who would fulfill that criteria but maybe workable..? Edited June 10, 2021 by mikebv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,666 Posted June 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, mikebv said: You would need five man teams and it maybe could work? Four riders over three points and one lower than a three point rider.. Grade the four A to D and use an overall mean team average of all of the riders, so one side can't hoover up the best rider in each grade.. Race every team home and away = 34 matches. Split the 18 teams into two Conferences based on geography and ride home and away against all teams in your Conference... Meaning another 16 matches in total... 50 matches per rider, not including play offs, where the top four from each Conference can go into home and away play offs to determine the two 'Conference Champs', who then go forward to the Grand Final.. Meaning 56 meetings per rider if reaching the final.. 72 riders needed over 3 points and 18 needed below 3... Not checked how many there are this year who would fulfill that criteria but maybe workable..? Already you've split the divisions into 2. Also, fixed race night's?? 100% they'll be needed with all the foreign rider's going back & forth to their own league's + 1 / 2. No matter how hard you try, it's not financially viable to have 1 big league Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedball 566 Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) There’s a King’s Lynn thread in here somewhere More importantly what’s the matter with Heeps and how long before we can get him into our side? Scenes when we have three 6 point plus riders in the 1-7 Edited June 10, 2021 by Speedball 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,666 Posted June 10, 2021 31 minutes ago, Speedball said: There’s a King’s Lynn thread in here somewhere More importantly what’s the matter with Heeps and how long before we can get him into our side? Scenes when we have three 6 point plus riders in the 1-7 When you're relying on Heeps you know you're in trouble 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedball 566 Posted June 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: When you're relying on Heeps you know you're in trouble I think we’ve already noticed we’re in trouble. Started in about 2019 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therefused 819 Posted June 10, 2021 11 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Explain to me how it would work. Here's a couple of obstacles. 18 teams, 6 a side, 108 riders? Fixed race nights would be required Show me how you'd get around these There probably won’t be 18 teams though, I can imagine 12-14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartoszZmarzlikFan 491 Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) Cook must of had an altercation or something to get sacked. Nothing wrong with him. Cookie is flying tonight. Edited June 10, 2021 by KingoftheTrack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warriors 83 Posted June 10, 2021 12 hours ago, therefused said: It wouldnt surprise me if a couple of teams drop out over the winter (and possibly during this season), so i could see one big league being viable next year. Probably 6 man teams, two youngsters at reserve and i reckon it could be done. I read somewhere today about wolves saying that if the lockdown doesn't continue easying, on the present path as expected on the 21st when everywhere is supposed to get back to something like normality, to allow more people in, they simply can't continue as they said they are making huge losses not good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,666 Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, therefused said: There probably won’t be 18 teams though, I can imagine 12-14 Maybe so, but currently there are 18. To plan for the future it has to be at the inclusion of all those 18. One big league just isn't possible, or financially viable to the rider's. There'd have to be 30+ home matches for every club on fixed race night's. There are many in the Championship that couldn't do Monday - Thursday's. Don't do fixed race night's there'll be around 8 further rider's drop out of UK racing. Or do we go old skool & run guests & R/R for rider's racing abroad again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevehone 3,430 Posted June 10, 2021 another issue is if it's one league do the riders get elite league wages or championship? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,666 Posted June 11, 2021 8 hours ago, stevehone said: another issue is if it's one league do the riders get elite league wages or championship? I'm not sure there's anything between them Steve with some clubs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warriors 83 Posted June 11, 2021 11 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Maybe so, but currently there are 18. To plan for the future it has to be at the inclusion of all those 18. One big league just isn't possible, or financially viable to the rider's. There'd have to be 30+ home matches for every club on fixed race night's. There are many in the Championship that couldn't do Monday - Thursday's. Don't do fixed race night's there'll be around 8 further rider's drop out of UK racing. Or do we go old skool & run guests & R/R for rider's racing abroad again. That's Birmingham gone, sadly that's just the start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,784 Posted June 11, 2021 On hold, not gone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gambo 1,341 Posted June 11, 2021 11 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Maybe so, but currently there are 18. To plan for the future it has to be at the inclusion of all those 18. One big league just isn't possible, or financially viable to the rider's. There'd have to be 30+ home matches for every club on fixed race night's. There are many in the Championship that couldn't do Monday - Thursday's. Don't do fixed race night's there'll be around 8 further rider's drop out of UK racing. Or do we go old skool & run guests & R/R for rider's racing abroad again. If there were one League you would not need fixed race nights. Each team would only need one Monday meeting to satisfy (if there were) any TV commitments. If a team uses riders with foreign league commitments, then that is really their problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
