szkocjasid 3,046 Posted December 1, 2021 22 hours ago, Brummies23 said: Depending if they want to come ride for the brummies that’s another question.. 1) Sam Masters. 9.88 2) paco 5.52 3) Ryan Douglas 7.74 4) Tero Aarnio 6.94 5) Danny king or martin smolinski 6) joe Thompson 7) jack thomas That the team I look to build Looks more like a Premiership team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deano 1,318 Posted December 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Gerbat1875 said: I never said khalid mahmood wanted the speedway closed, all I said was he stands up for his constituency, a lot of residents in the Perry Barr area hate the speedway, if he needs votes he will go with his constituents, to keep them onside. Mahmood did a great job selling the commonwealth games to the residents of the Perry Barr. Read Brian’s post no complaints in five years. I think you are just making stuff up to come across as negative. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OGT 612 Posted December 2, 2021 12 hours ago, Deano said: Read Brian’s post no complaints in five years. I think you are just making stuff up to come across as negative. The commonwealth games will cost council tax payers money and has caused them and will continue to cause them more disruption than all the years of speedway put together. I don't believe they give a toss about a few hundred people on a Wednesday night for a few months. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,297 Posted December 2, 2021 27 minutes ago, OGT said: The commonwealth games will cost council tax payers money and has caused them and will continue to cause them more disruption than all the years of speedway put together. I don't believe they give a toss about a few hundred people on a Wednesday night for a few months. 100% this... Birmingham's problem is, like so many other tracks, that they get so very, very few people interested in watching Speedway from a huge conurbation on their doorstep.. If that issue ever got fixed then no council, no dog racing company, or even security guards being over officious, would have hardly any impact on it whatsoever.. Speedways problems are simply down to not enough people attending which, in the vast majority of reasons, is due to self inflicted issues rather than any external influences.. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OGT 612 Posted December 2, 2021 3 hours ago, mikebv said: 100% this... Birmingham's problem is, like so many other tracks, that they get so very, very few people interested in watching Speedway from a huge conurbation on their doorstep.. If that issue ever got fixed then no council, no dog racing company, or even security guards being over officious, would have hardly any impact on it whatsoever.. Speedways problems are simply down to not enough people attending which, in the vast majority of reasons, is due to self inflicted issues rather than any external influences.. Brum's big problem since the 2007 relaunch is the 21 year gap between the Wheels and Perry Barr. This is why the majority of supporters are, to be kind, mature and in a lot of cases, very mature. Finding and holding on to a new generation of fans is a huge, huge task. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,297 Posted December 2, 2021 32 minutes ago, OGT said: Brum's big problem since the 2007 relaunch is the 21 year gap between the Wheels and Perry Barr. This is why the majority of supporters are, to be kind, mature and in a lot of cases, very mature. Finding and holding on to a new generation of fans is a huge, huge task. An no doubt like so many tracks they will have a very solid numbered fan base who still take an interest in the team, and in the wider sport itself, yet wont attend too many meetings, if indeed, any at all... If tracks could just get those who "follow them" to attend each week/more regularly, that, given such low numbers in real terms who do attend, 100% crowd increases wouldnt be out of the question for some, and well into double digit growth for many... I went to Birmingham about six years ago to watch the Aces and felt like a 48 year old 'spring chicken' when I entered the upstairs bar and saw the average age of their support... A tough ask to run Speedway there I would suggest, especially given the wider way the sport is ran in the UK will always negatively impact crowds and prevent potential from ever being delivered.. Best wishes to those who try... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petecc 352 Posted December 2, 2021 21 hours ago, PirateShip said: This could be in another post I guess, as anything ever been done to attract Asian, black & other such communities to speedway? You may say speedway isn't a sport in their culture but that's no different to most of the British white culture! This is not just a birmingham problem . Go to any track or watch on TV and you will see rows of white faces. I understand not completely white but you are right. In our multi cultural society, does speedway do enough to attract non white people? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaizer 2,864 Posted December 2, 2021 Just now, mikebv said: An no doubt like so many tracks they will have a very solid numbered fan base who still take an interest in the team, and in the wider sport itself, yet wont attend too many meetings, if indeed, any at all... If tracks could just get those who "follow them" to attend each week/more regularly, that, given such low numbers in real terms who do attend, 100% crowd increases wouldnt be out of the question for some, and well into double digit growth for many... I went to Birmingham about six years ago to watch the Aces and felt like a 48 year old 'spring chicken' when I entered the upstairs bar and saw the average age of their support... A tough ask to run Speedway there I would suggest, especially given the wider way the sport is ran in the UK will always negatively impact crowds and prevent potential from ever being delivered.. Best wishes to those who try... Problem speedway faces imo is that to most it is not the primary sport they follow. Being from West of Scotland where football is essentially a religion I fall into that category as well. The cost of attending a meeting now does not allow the average person to spend 50/60 quid at the football on a Saturday n still be able to afford the speedway every week as well. I know Berwick trialled tenner entry a few years back not sure if had any effect on attendances (bandits fans?) Buy I think once you're talking 20 odd quid it's difficult to entice people away from saying, ach I'll just get it on the updates 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lbw 869 Posted December 2, 2021 26 minutes ago, Petecc said: This is not just a birmingham problem . Go to any track or watch on TV and you will see rows of white faces. I understand not completely white but you are right. In our multi cultural society, does speedway do enough to attract non white people? Yep sorry, appreciate it's not just a Birmingham problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petecc 352 Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, PirateShip said: Yep sorry, appreciate it's not just a Birmingham problem Sorry wasn't having a dig at you , I agree, your right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cityrebel 2,960 Posted December 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Jaizer said: Problem speedway faces imo is that to most it is not the primary sport they follow. Being from West of Scotland where football is essentially a religion I fall into that category as well. The cost of attending a meeting now does not allow the average person to spend 50/60 quid at the football on a Saturday n still be able to afford the speedway every week as well. I know Berwick trialled tenner entry a few years back not sure if had any effect on attendances (bandits fans?) Buy I think once you're talking 20 odd quid it's difficult to entice people away from saying, ach I'll just get it on the updates The British public doesent think that speedway represents value for money, hence the lack of newbies. Until this changes, the sport is going one way. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinBSN 617 Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, cityrebel said: The British public doesent think that speedway represents value for money, hence the lack of newbies. Until this changes, the sport is going one way. I'd disagree with that. I did a survey of 1000 speedway fans and 70% of people rated the value for money as 7/10 or higher. Baring in mind only 35% of the 1000 were regular speedway goers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lbw 869 Posted December 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Petecc said: Sorry wasn't having a dig at you , I agree, your right. Understand you wasn't Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lbw 869 Posted December 2, 2021 Unless I've missed it, any actual news on whether or not Brummies are racing next season?? Understand they av until the end of this week to declare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted December 2, 2021 55 minutes ago, PirateShip said: Unless I've missed it, any actual news on whether or not Brummies are racing next season?? Understand they av until the end of this week to declare. They have til the AGM on Tuesday! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites