Lefty 1,268 Posted January 21, 2023 Is this real??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Najjer 2,890 Posted January 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Lefty said: Is this real??? Afraid so 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cast1rn 464 Posted January 21, 2023 Just to summarise and do correct me if I'm missing something. A consortium had put together a business plan to bring speedway back to Somerset. A gentleman then emailed and harassed the council members stating he owned completely the Somerset rebels and name dropped a lot of people involved with speedway saying he had their backing. North Somerset council don't do any investigation into these claims but throw out the plans from this Shale ltd ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Najjer 2,890 Posted January 21, 2023 25 minutes ago, Cast1rn said: Just to summarise and do correct me if I'm missing something. A consortium had put together a business plan to bring speedway back to Somerset. A gentleman then emailed and harassed the council members stating he owned completely the Somerset rebels and name dropped a lot of people involved with speedway saying he had their backing. North Somerset council don't do any investigation into these claims but throw out the plans from this Shale ltd ??? That seems to be the long and short of it, yep. Clear as mud eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Sidney 292 Posted January 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Cast1rn said: Just to summarise and do correct me if I'm missing something. A consortium had put together a business plan to bring speedway back to Somerset. A gentleman then emailed and harassed the council members stating he owned completely the Somerset rebels and name dropped a lot of people involved with speedway saying he had their backing. North Somerset council don't do any investigation into these claims but throw out the plans from this Shale ltd ??? I'd like to see some more detail about the legitimacy of this claim. Given the size of the proposal, excluding the speedway element, I find it unlikely that two Councillors would have delegated authority to dismiss such a proposal without further reference to a designated Committee or without Legal oversight of the process 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HGould 2,213 Posted January 21, 2023 Unfortunately this is atypical of the power some Councillors hold in some Areas. Typically they will pass anything for a bung equally block anything for a nod and a wink. This is the territory of Rees Mogg and such types. So not wholly surprising. A massive shame if true. As for the speedway names implicated, one name wouldn't surprise me if being spiteful and envious and it wouldn't be Rosco or Godfrey. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Sidney 292 Posted January 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, HGould said: Unfortunately this is atypical of the power some Councillors hold in some Areas. Typically they will pass anything for a bung equally block anything for a nod and a wink. This is the territory of Rees Mogg and such types. So not wholly surprising. Frankly that is just nonsense. There are controls and oversights in place to prevent such things. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HGould 2,213 Posted January 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said: Frankly that is just nonsense. There are controls and oversights in place to prevent such things. There are, but the article suggests that the Group have pulled out before seeking to appeal after losing an investor and deciding not to proceed. At Planning stages one or two dissenting voices can certainly obstruct or delay applications if the chairperson decides they have a case. In this case the committee deciding wouldn't have a clue about speedway but the alleged objections raised would give ammunition to the ney says to stop the application. As an ex Councillor I've seen it happen many times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,649 Posted January 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said: Frankly that is just nonsense. There are controls and oversights in place to prevent such things. A quick search of North Somerset planning site reveals an application for speedway was submitted and refused ... ..in 1972. Nothing more recent. Like you I think this is mostly fiction. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,022 Posted January 21, 2023 Who is Brian White? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Sidney 292 Posted January 21, 2023 30 minutes ago, HGould said: There are, but the article suggests that the Group have pulled out before seeking to appeal after losing an investor and deciding not to proceed. At Planning stages one or two dissenting voices can certainly obstruct or delay applications if the chairperson decides they have a case. In this case the committee deciding wouldn't have a clue about speedway but the alleged objections raised would give ammunition to the ney says to stop the application. As an ex Councillor I've seen it happen many times. As an ex Councillor who saw fraud happening did you report it? I accept that objections to a planning application may be given weight that is not justified, but that is in the public domain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePark 2,783 Posted January 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, iainb said: Who is Brian White? Former promoter at Weymouth ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,022 Posted January 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, StevePark said: Former promoter at Weymouth ?? Dunno, I've never heard of him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marky_Mark 55 Posted January 21, 2023 It would be a shame if this project has hit the buffers as like others I was keen to see a return to speedway in the area. I also have no idea who’s involved and who said or did what but something conflicts to the original statement that said this would be basic facilities that would gradually build up, just as many start up teams have….. a 25,000 people arena for major pop events would give the council far more cause for concern? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
westlakejawa 23 Posted January 21, 2023 Bare in mind this is the council which can produce road markings which are not even in the Highway code!! WIGGLEY white lines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites