Tosh1218 592 Posted September 19, 2021 Why speedway continually shoots its self in the foot Birmingham Brummies win away and get 3 league pts at lowly Newcastle Diamonds using 3 guests scoring 22 pts from programmed rides and then rider replacement rides to win 44 - 45 away at Newcastle . This Tally doesn’t leave your number 1 and 5 riders needing to score a lot of points from there 4 programmed rides plus the Heat 15 heat against a weakened Newcastle Diamonds side ravaged by injury and withdrawal riders . Try explaining this to your work colleagues in morning over a cup of tea and biscuits at lunch break. .??? Unbelievable Jeff Basically a sport on its Ars* it has to change 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,032 Posted September 19, 2021 Yeah, I wouldn't start explaining to anyone who doesn't go regularly. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old bob at herne bay 828 Posted September 19, 2021 Sadly “Lisa Collette” it is changing... doubt either Newcastle or Birmingham will be staging speedway in 2022 ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePark 2,781 Posted September 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Tosh1218 said: Why speedway continually shoots its self in the foot Birmingham Brummies win away and get 3 league pts at lowly Newcastle Diamonds using 3 guests scoring 22 pts from programmed rides and then rider replacement rides to win 44 - 45 away at Newcastle . This Tally doesn’t leave your number 1 and 5 riders needing to score a lot of points from there 4 programmed rides plus the Heat 15 heat against a weakened Newcastle Diamonds side ravaged by injury and withdrawal riders . Try explaining this to your work colleagues in morning over a cup of tea and biscuits at lunch break. .??? Unbelievable Jeff Basically a sport on its Ars* it has to change Erik Riss (no 5) scored 15 (+1), which kind of helped as well. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,032 Posted September 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: Sadly “Lisa Collette” it is changing... doubt either Newcastle or Birmingham will be staging speedway in 2022 ? Sounds a bit more hopeful on the Newcastle thread now. I just meant, if you can get someone interested in speedway then don't go explaining all the rules to them as will put them off. They are better off in blissful ignorance imo! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,018 Posted September 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Tosh1218 said: Why speedway continually shoots its self in the foot Birmingham Brummies win away and get 3 league pts at lowly Newcastle Diamonds using 3 guests scoring 22 pts from programmed rides and then rider replacement rides to win 44 - 45 away at Newcastle . This Tally doesn’t leave your number 1 and 5 riders needing to score a lot of points from there 4 programmed rides plus the Heat 15 heat against a weakened Newcastle Diamonds side ravaged by injury and withdrawal riders . Try explaining this to your work colleagues in morning over a cup of tea and biscuits at lunch break. .??? Unbelievable Jeff Basically a sport on its Ars* it has to change I'd start trying to explain at your early morning coffee break if I were you... you may need some time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topsoil 2,498 Posted September 20, 2021 8 hours ago, Tosh1218 said: Why speedway continually shoots its self in the foot Birmingham Brummies win away and get 3 league pts at lowly Newcastle Diamonds using 3 guests scoring 22 pts from programmed rides and then rider replacement rides to win 44 - 45 away at Newcastle . This Tally doesn’t leave your number 1 and 5 riders needing to score a lot of points from there 4 programmed rides plus the Heat 15 heat against a weakened Newcastle Diamonds side ravaged by injury and withdrawal riders . Try explaining this to your work colleagues in morning over a cup of tea and biscuits at lunch break. .??? Unbelievable Jeff Basically a sport on its Ars* it has to change Why not just leave it a 45-44 win away to Newcastle in the league and you had a good day away in another city? That's where speedway fans bore the hell out of their 'friends', by going into minutia like r/r, guests and so on. You think they are interested in that sort of stuff? Only speedway fans are. Tell them what Newcastle is like for a day out, that's a hell of a lot more interesting that your use of guests and r/r. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zlata prilba 320 Posted September 20, 2021 7 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said: Sadly “Lisa Collette” it is changing... doubt either Newcastle or Birmingham will be staging speedway in 2022 ? You could put Poole in that bracket too 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SSL84 541 Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, zlata prilba said: You could put Poole in that bracket too Why would Poole not be running? Think you maybe way out with your post. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montie 1,273 Posted September 20, 2021 10 hours ago, Tosh1218 said: Why speedway continually shoots its self in the foot Birmingham Brummies win away and get 3 league pts at lowly Newcastle Diamonds using 3 guests scoring 22 pts from programmed rides and then rider replacement rides to win 44 - 45 away at Newcastle . This Tally doesn’t leave your number 1 and 5 riders needing to score a lot of points from there 4 programmed rides plus the Heat 15 heat against a weakened Newcastle Diamonds side ravaged by injury and withdrawal riders . Try explaining this to your work colleagues in morning over a cup of tea and biscuits at lunch break. .??? Unbelievable Jeff Basically a sport on its Ars* it has to change But what is the alternative to Guests and RR in this situation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,367 Posted September 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, montie said: But what is the alternative to Guests and RR in this situation? R/r and promote juniors,it works fine in Poland,at least they are watching their own Team,win or lose. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zlata prilba 320 Posted September 20, 2021 48 minutes ago, Trackerman48 said: Why would Poole not be running? Think you maybe way out with your post. Possibly but any track that pays rent to landlords are in danger for me with rising costs here n there all mounts up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montie 1,273 Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: R/r and promote juniors,it works fine in Poland,at least they are watching their own Team,win or lose. im all for giving the juniors chances,but i fear in the situation last night this would create a very one sided meeting rather than the very close ,nail biter at Newcastle last night guest last night surely added to the entertainment of the meeting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tosh1218 592 Posted September 20, 2021 Six man teams might be the way forward , I’m sure it’s been run with 6 riders before 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wtf 621 Posted September 20, 2021 2 hours ago, montie said: But what is the alternative to Guests and RR in this situation? The only alternatives to Guests is for the UK to run squads. If you want to retain people in a squad there has to be some financial reward if they are prohibited from riding elsewhere and have to practise. Seeing as how the UK clubs can only just pay seven riders they have now and in some cases not, I'm not sure squads are affordable? Squads do require signing on fees, which are pretty much gone from UK speedway now. BTW, the main reason overseas riders ride the UK is because they DONT have squads. You sign up, and barring injury you are much more likely to get all the meetings scheduled than overseas where one poor performance will see you left out for the rest of the year. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites