bigcatdiary 3,165 Posted September 29, 2021 13 hours ago, Endeavour said: Not funny if you are a Wolves fan. I will tell you something else that wasn’t funny for Panthers fans. Morris falling entirely on his own in heat 3 and being allowed back in the rerun Douglas giving Palm Toft a nudge in the rerun and causing him to fall and getting injured and no exclusion for Douglas. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,292 Posted September 29, 2021 14 hours ago, Grachan said: The replay is on Eurosport at the moment. Just shown a replay of Hans' going down in Heat 14. Quite funny to see the replay and see him give a little look to the left to see the Wolves pair leading before going down. I think the bike got caught UNDER him... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,375 Posted September 29, 2021 12 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Perfect example of where the referee should be able to award a race even when less than half a lap completed.... Agree that should have awarded 5/1 to Wolves.Hans cheated.Makes the sport look what it is “ Mickey Mouse”. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartoszZmarzlikFan 491 Posted September 29, 2021 Hans done the right thing. Who cares about fair play? If it wasn't for him staying down then we would've been 43 - 41 down going into the last race and Schlein wouldn't have gambled to get the jump over Bomber off gate 4. Respect the Panthers legend for using his experience. Morris should've been excluded early in the night anyway so it levels it all out really. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,191 Posted September 29, 2021 1 hour ago, KingoftheTrack said: Hans done the right thing. Who cares about fair play? If it wasn't for him staying down then we would've been 43 - 41 down going into the last race and Schlein wouldn't have gambled to get the jump over Bomber off gate 4. Respect the Panthers legend for using his experience. Morris should've been excluded early in the night anyway so it levels it all out really. That could be British speedway’s new tag line. We’ve had “Fuelled by excitement.” “Its better than nothing” Now, British Speedway - “Who cares about fair play” 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noaksey 345 Posted September 29, 2021 4 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: I will tell you something else that wasn’t funny for Panthers fans. Morris falling entirely on his own in heat 3 and being allowed back in the rerun Douglas giving Palm Toft a nudge in the rerun and causing him to fall and getting injured and no exclusion for Douglas. Bad refereeing doesn't excuse cheating 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted September 29, 2021 4 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: I will tell you something else that wasn’t funny for Panthers fans. Morris falling entirely on his own in heat 3 and being allowed back in the rerun Douglas giving Palm Toft a nudge in the rerun and causing him to fall and getting injured and no exclusion for Douglas. Certainly good old fashioned 'homer ref' decisions 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scoobydoo 2,254 Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) No one has mentioned the IRR situation for MPT, i for one didn't think it could be used when RR was already in use, but with the no TS rule in place was it a case of the IRR was permitted therefore in the play offs and not a normal league match ? Edited September 29, 2021 by scoobydoo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flappy 1,605 Posted September 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: No one has mentioned the IRR situation for MPT, i for one didn't think it could be used when RR was already in use, but with the no TS rule in place was it a case of the IRR was permitted therefore in the play offs and not a normal league match ? Tbh i don't see an issue with it, a team with an injured rider shouldn't be punished imo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tellboy 3,662 Posted September 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: No one has mentioned the IRR situation for MPT, i for one didn't think it could be used when RR was already in use, but with the no TS rule in place was it a case of the IRR was permitted therefore in the play offs and not a normal league match ? IRR is permitted when using RR.It happened at Lynn,funnily enough against Peterborough.Lynn had RR for Riss and Schlein was guesting at no1.Schlein injured after his 2nd race and Lynn then used IRR for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartoszZmarzlikFan 491 Posted September 29, 2021 Another thing I forgot to add. If it was Douglas or Nicol who fell in Heat 14 and either saw the Panthers on a 5 - 1 do you think either would've gotten up to allow the race to continue knowing full well it would be a body blow to Wolves as a team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted September 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: No one has mentioned the IRR situation for MPT, i for one didn't think it could be used when RR was already in use, but with the no TS rule in place was it a case of the IRR was permitted therefore in the play offs and not a normal league match ? 2 minutes ago, tellboy said: IRR is permitted when using RR.It happened at Lynn,funnily enough against Peterborough.Lynn had RR for Riss and Schlein was guesting at no1.Schlein injured after his 2nd race and Lynn then used IRR for him. The regs must therefore have been altered as previously it was clearly stated that IRR could not be used when RR was already in operation Arguably a sensible change (see there are some!) but would interesting if someone is able to copy paste the extract from the regs to clarify if/when it happened Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scoobydoo 2,254 Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, tellboy said: IRR is permitted when using RR.It happened at Lynn,funnily enough against Peterborough.Lynn had RR for Riss and Schlein was guesting at no1.Schlein injured after his 2nd race and Lynn then used IRR for him. Just thought i had read it couldn't be used with RR its good it can be used and was introduced to cover for a rider who was injured during a meeting it at least limits the 3 rider races as well Edited September 29, 2021 by scoobydoo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted September 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, scoobydoo said: Just thought i had read it couldn't be used with RR its good it can be used and was introduced to cover for a rider who was injured during a meeting it at least limits the 3 rider races as well Page 113 of the regs There is no longer reference to irr not being available when rr is in use so it has indeed been changed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,736 Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: The regs must therefore have been altered as previously it was clearly stated that IRR could not be used when RR was already in operation Arguably a sensible change (see there are some!) but would interesting if someone is able to copy paste the extract from the regs to clarify if/when it happened Not in the 2020 regs that you can`t use both - nor in the supp regs for 2021 Where the maximum number of rides is specified, in the case of a rider (1- 5 by MA) the maximum number of rides includes 4 programme rides plus, one as a TS, RR, IRR and 1 in the Heat 15, to a maximum of 7 rides. Edited September 29, 2021 by racers and royals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
