Arch Stanton 2,328 Posted July 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Skidder1 said: I don't get the negativity about Danny King. He's in the 1-7 as 3rd heat leader and pretty much scoring his average or above regularly? So many posters complain about teams changing every year with no continuity, but here you have a local, established rider doing what he was brought in to do!! Have a (rightful?) go at the management and team building!! It’s a shame but King has become the fall guy for years of failure at Foxhall. He’s been a great servant and the failure to win anything as a team certainly hasn’t been his fault, but the groans on the terraces have grown louder the last couple of years so I think it’s best for all concerned if they both have a fresh break. Probably won’t happen though.. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,245 Posted July 24, 2023 Get the team selection right,, and as a 2 or 4 he will be fine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,282 Posted July 24, 2023 25 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Get the team selection right,, and as a 2 or 4 he will be fine Yes, a bit like Steve Worrall at Wolves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Jacobs 568 Posted July 24, 2023 7 hours ago, Skidder1 said: I don't get the negativity about Danny King. He's in the 1-7 as 3rd heat leader and pretty much scoring his average or above regularly? So many posters complain about teams changing every year with no continuity, but here you have a local, established rider doing what he was brought in to do!! Have a (rightful?) go at the management and team building!! Yet, as pointed out by several people, King himself made the (daft) claim that he could push Doyle & Sayfutdinov - while the alternative statements suggested by those people make much more sense. Those who say "he's scoring his average" exercise the cognitive dissonance of accepting a contribution that clearly needs to be better for the team to be successful. King's performances in the tough Heats 13 & 15 over recent seasons have been 5.0-6.0 average compared to his overall 6.5-7.0 average, which shows he can't raise his game when necessary. It would be interesting to check his scores in Heat 12 this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StarBoy 179 Posted July 24, 2023 23 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said: Yet, as pointed out by several people, King himself made the (daft) claim that he could push Doyle & Sayfutdinov - while the alternative statements suggested by those people make much more sense. Those who say "he's scoring his average" exercise the cognitive dissonance of accepting a contribution that clearly needs to be better for the team to be successful. King's performances in the tough Heats 13 & 15 over recent seasons have been 5.0-6.0 average compared to his overall 6.5-7.0 average, which shows he can't raise his game when necessary. It would be interesting to check his scores in Heat 12 this season. 3, 0, 0, 1, 3, 2, 1, 1, 3, 3, 3, 2, 1, 0, 1, 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,669 Posted July 24, 2023 32 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said: Yet, as pointed out by several people, King himself made the (daft) claim that he could push Doyle & Sayfutdinov - while the alternative statements suggested by those people make much more sense. Those who say "he's scoring his average" exercise the cognitive dissonance of accepting a contribution that clearly needs to be better for the team to be successful. King's performances in the tough Heats 13 & 15 over recent seasons have been 5.0-6.0 average compared to his overall 6.5-7.0 average, which shows he can't raise his game when necessary. It would be interesting to check his scores in Heat 12 this season. As third heat leader, one might question why he's in heats13 and 15?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin bass 302 Posted July 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Skidder1 said: As third heat leader, one might question why he's in heats13 and 15?? In previous yrs not this yr, King normally catches heats 10/12, and there the heats he goes missing from time to time and gets beat by riders he should be beating home and away. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racin Jason 72 1,330 Posted July 24, 2023 8 hours ago, Skidder1 said: I don't get the negativity about Danny King. He's in the 1-7 as 3rd heat leader and pretty much scoring his average or above regularly? So many posters complain about teams changing every year with no continuity, but here you have a local, established rider doing what he was brought in to do!! Have a (rightful?) go at the management and team building!! Trouble is he crumbles under pressure. He has conceded 5x 5-1s at home this season. Also for Redcar he never seems to perform in the big heats. also has a habit of racing his own teammates and can’t team ride or even look for his partner. Over the years he has been a tremendous asset to the club but the time has come to move on for both parties. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,282 Posted July 24, 2023 Still loved by the Poole massive though Ipswich's problems this year have been no consistent support for the top two. Hume & King far too inconsistent, Riss not contributed at all and Joe T kept in the side for far too long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,669 Posted July 24, 2023 39 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: Trouble is he crumbles under pressure. He has conceded 5x 5-1s at home this season. Also for Redcar he never seems to perform in the big heats. also has a habit of racing his own teammates and can’t team ride or even look for his partner. Over the years he has been a tremendous asset to the club but the time has come to move on for both parties. That's as much down to the management then. When he rode for Poole last year he not only team rode but also topped the averages with Worrall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racin Jason 72 1,330 Posted July 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: That's as much down to the management then. When he rode for Poole last year he not only team rode but also topped the averages with Worrall. So why did Poole keep worrall over king ? I do agree the management are partly responsible. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,669 Posted July 24, 2023 51 minutes ago, Racin Jason 72 said: So why did Poole keep worrall over king ? I do agree the management are partly responsible. Because theyd promised Worrall his testimonial and Matt Ford wouldnt renege on it when the points limit was dropped from 42 to 40 points. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,731 Posted July 24, 2023 2 hours ago, StarBoy said: 3, 0, 0, 1, 3, 2, 1, 1, 3, 3, 3, 2, 1, 0, 1, 3 I think that's 27 from 16 which is 6.75 Pretty much bang on his average then 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,317 Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: I think that's 27 from 16 which is 6.75 Pretty much bang on his average then They have Doyle and Emil at great cost and whinge that King is only doing his average The rest ?? Edited July 24, 2023 by Bald Bloke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin bass 302 Posted July 24, 2023 I think it's just people getting frustrated when King gets beat by second strings/reserves who he should be beating, but like said the others ain't really doing their job either, Riss woeful most wks, and Rew not haps going as well as a lot people expected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites