NSS1 41 Posted October 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, 1984Star said: That was a good few years ago and also believe he only rode a handful of meetings. So total different scenarios he rode 1 meeting so not enough to get a MA ?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,381 Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, shadowfax said: 010.3.1 Cut Off Date No team changes will be allowed after 28th August with the effective date being 31st August. Except riders returning to the team after injury who must re-take their position, dictated by their MA, with their replacement being released. The BSPA Directors monitor all proposed moves and have the sole responsibility to approve all re-declared teams, having been satisfied they are in the best interests of the sport. Where does this imply that Belle Vue are allowed to make a team change The BSPA directors must have been "satisfied it is in the best interests of the sport" I presume... Bringing another one the best riders in the world into the Premiership must be seen as that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty 1,273 Posted October 3, 2022 Thumbs up to Belle Vue for getting Robert in for Max. I hope there is an increase in attendance tonight and next week and a positive buzz around the stadium. Great to see a promotion actually 'promoting'. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NSS1 41 Posted October 3, 2022 Perfect weather in Manchester dry all yesterday and nice sunny autum day today 17/18 so track will be perfect for our new rider it will feel like poland to him and he has brought is polish / gp engines the battles with doyle will be worth the addmission money alone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,714 Posted October 3, 2022 22 minutes ago, NSS1 said: don't forget to pick your toys & dummy up from your pram Well done for the balanced and intelligent level of debate you have managed here People will be able to draw their own conclusions as to which posters are childlike cretins and which try to discuss sensibly even when disagreeing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NSS1 41 Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) Aces have done nothing wrong same as wolves/poole have done in the past we all know they were underhand tatics but within the rules !! except Aces case is genuine with a rider injured and out for the season !! fans will have to suck it up like like other fans did in the past funny how things turn around Edited October 3, 2022 by NSS1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NSS1 41 Posted October 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Well done for the balanced and intelligent level of debate you have managed here People will be able to draw their own conclusions as to which posters are childlike cretins and which try to discuss sensibly even when disagreeing oh dear another one with a lump in his throat 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NSS1 41 Posted October 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Well done for the balanced and intelligent level of debate you have managed here People will be able to draw their own conclusions as to which posters are childlike cretins and which try to discuss sensibly even when disagreeing think you had better go back and read some other commments here pot/kettle/black Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,381 Posted October 3, 2022 When you use averages, and given all the manipulation and variable ways they get delivered it is definitely not an exact science, (nor in my opinion fit for purpose, but that's for another time)... You then cannot complain when they get used to bring in riders for those injured.. You either have to use them or not and given the whole season sees guests being used on a horses for courses/ringer basis, then at least we have one rider now who will complete (hopefully), 3 meetings.. Just a shame he couldnt have done all four... Let's hope we see some great racing tonight from him.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,125 Posted October 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, NSS1 said: Aces have done nothing wrong same as wolves/poole have done in the past we all know they were underhand tatics but within the rules !! except Aces case is genuine with a rider injured and out for the season !! fans will have to suck it up like like other fans did in the past funny how things turn around Maybe so but you haven't even scratched the surface with the level of flack Poole used to get. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhilTheAce 498 Posted October 3, 2022 30 minutes ago, NSS1 said: oh dear another one with a lump in his throat Out of interest, where have you been hiding the last few months 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer sam 3,960 Posted October 3, 2022 29 minutes ago, NSS1 said: Aces have done nothing wrong same as wolves/poole have done in the past we all know they were underhand tatics but within the rules !! except Aces case is genuine with a rider injured and out for the season !! fans will have to suck it up like like other fans did in the past funny how things turn around As a non-Poole fan and non-Wolves fan, I would point both Hancock (2013) and Woffinden (2016) were signed before the transfer deadline and used in regular league matches. Wolverhampton had both Lindgren and Thorssell injured in 2017, won the away leg at Swindon, but then lost the final because they were missing their two biggest home track experts. Wolves followed the rules and didn't look for a loophole in the rulebook, get turned down for it, and then threaten legal action until they got their own way! Belle Vue Speedway is a credit to British speedway, with a superb track and stadium, but they will lost a lot of friends with their actions. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob B 1,267 Posted October 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, lucifer sam said: As a non-Poole fan and non-Wolves fan, I would point both Hancock (2013) and Woffinden (2016) were signed before the transfer deadline and used in regular league matches. Wolverhampton had both Lindgren and Thorssell injured in 2017, won the away leg at Swindon, but then lost the final because they were missing their two biggest home track experts. Wolves followed the rules and didn't look for a loophole in the rulebook, get turned down for it, and then threaten legal action until they got their own way! Belle Vue Speedway is a credit to British speedway, with a superb track and stadium, but they will lost a lot of friends with their actions. Was the rule written the same way then? I don't have a copy of 2017 rule book but know the rule was rewrittten this year to include the 25% to 75% window with 2 transfers except for long term injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,200 Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, lucifer sam said: As a non-Poole fan and non-Wolves fan, I would point both Hancock (2013) and Woffinden (2016) were signed before the transfer deadline and used in regular league matches. Wolverhampton had both Lindgren and Thorssell injured in 2017, won the away leg at Swindon, but then lost the final because they were missing their two biggest home track experts. Wolves followed the rules and didn't look for a loophole in the rulebook, get turned down for it, and then threaten legal action until they got their own way! Belle Vue Speedway is a credit to British speedway, with a superb track and stadium, but they will lost a lot of friends with their actions. They didn’t break the rule as there was no rule there at the time. Signing ringers for the play offs was subsequently stopped but they made a cock up with the rules which saw replacing long term injured riders also stopped. A oversight that hit Wolves hard in 2017. This has since been addressed and is the reason Belle Vue signed Lambert for their last four fixtures, all within the rules. Edited October 3, 2022 by ouch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,466 Posted October 3, 2022 Who really cares nowadays.Nothing ever surprises. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
