ragdoll64 647 Posted December 11, 2022 22 minutes ago, PTW said: Masters,Lawson,Harris,Douglas,Morris there I’d call out and out no1 riders atm You’d need to explain your reasoning for choosing Lawson over higher averaged riders? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,033 Posted December 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, ragdoll64 said: You’d need to explain your reasoning for choosing Lawson over higher averaged riders? Be interesting to see what Lawson's average last 2 months of the season, as couldn't have been many races he didn't win! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigcatdiary 3,165 Posted December 11, 2022 12 hours ago, Mike0310 said: That’s daft it’s been proven it was not a recreational drug he was daft for exceeding dosages of painkillers and the Plymouth promotion took him to a clinic for a drug test to prove it was just that and nothing more so I think your comment is frankly out of order like someone else has said if your in that much pain who knows what we all would do in the same circumstances. As a professional sportsman I would have thought it would be common sense for all riders to check with the SCB before taking anything, that would risk their riding status. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HGould 2,213 Posted December 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said: As a professional sportsman I would have thought it would be common sense for all riders to check with the SCB before taking anything, that would risk their riding status. Barker himself would probably admit that the "common sense gene" passed him by. He's not the only sportsman in any Sport afflicted by such an issue. They are often mercurial talents whose true potential is never fulfilled by weaknesses. It doesn't make them bad people, it just clouds their lives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Al 708 Posted December 11, 2022 17 hours ago, Mike0310 said: I’m hearing what Andersen was on last season was mental money and I doubt anyone would pay that this season He perhaps ought to hang his riding boots up now because his downwards trajectory is only getting steeper. Think he might also have taken quite a few concussions, the risk of long term harm is going to increase sharply now, if he has more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,040 Posted December 11, 2022 3 hours ago, PTW said: Masters,Lawson,Harris,Douglas,Morris there I’d call out and out no1 riders atm 1) Lawson's 2022 ave was half a point lower than Howarth's 2) Lawson never rode at number one for Poole (99% sure) Not sure he fits the "out & out number one" mould. Probably need to be a 9+ rider to qualify (which means Howarth doesn't either). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,644 Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Be interesting to see what Lawson's average last 2 months of the season, as couldn't have been many races he didn't win! From 1 Sept ( Inc 1 guest appearance):- 9.93 [exc bonus] Edit - figure corrected Edited December 11, 2022 by arnieg 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,040 Posted December 11, 2022 How about? Plymouth Kyle Howarth 8.36 Richie Worrall 7.97 Ben Barker 7.80 Ben Morley 4.94 Dan Gilkes 4.55 Connor Bailey 4.32 Ablitt / Trigger 2.00 Total 39.94 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,033 Posted December 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, arnieg said: From 1 Sept ( Inc 1 guest appearance):- 9.93 [exc bonus] Edit - figure corrected Proves @PTW point then about Lawson being an out and out No1! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PTW 37 Posted December 11, 2022 14 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Proves @PTW point then about Lawson being an out and out No1! When it matters who would you want going out to win you a heat in this league the ones I mentioned,Lawson for me you can guarantee he will win the majority of heats,and I think Poole we’re careful with there heatleaders averages trying to keep them altogether if that wasn’t the case I think he would of been around the 9.00-9.50 mark no problem,but these days you do that all likelihood you put yourself out of a team place. Id have Lawson over both of the other Poole heatleaders from this year absolute class in this league 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torpointfanatic22 268 Posted December 11, 2022 16 hours ago, TTT said: Drew Kemp or Dillon Ruml to complete the 1-5? Kemp could be a dark horse! Would be happy if he came to Plymouth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torpointfanatic22 268 Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: How about? Plymouth Kyle Howarth 8.36 Richie Worrall 7.97 Ben Barker 7.80 Ben Morley 4.94 Dan Gilkes 4.55 Connor Bailey 4.32 Ablitt / Trigger 2.00 Total 39.94 I really don't think Ben Morley on that average with that bottom end is the right move. Hopefully someone like Kemp but could see a former Plymouth rider like Newman or Starke get the nod. Edited December 11, 2022 by torpointfanatic22 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torpointfanatic22 268 Posted December 11, 2022 17 hours ago, Mike0310 said: That’s daft it’s been proven it was not a recreational drug he was daft for exceeding dosages of painkillers and the Plymouth promotion took him to a clinic for a drug test to prove it was just that and nothing more so I think your comment is frankly out of order like someone else has said if your in that much pain who knows what we all would do in the same circumstances. I think the original post may be down to other previous incidents involving Barker throughout his career. He's upset plenty in his time! Take away the 'off track' Barker and focusing purely 'on track' he's dynamite at Plymouth and can still do a decent job on most away tracks. He was always returning. Be interesting to see how he comes back from last seasons debacle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robinh88 571 Posted December 11, 2022 5 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Be interesting to see what Lawson's average last 2 months of the season, as couldn't have been many races he didn't win! Think he was 9.85 in all comps post the finale. Saw Richard last year at Redcar looking for his team mate to get a bonus point or two. He plays the averages a treat, fair play to him. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillipsr 2,057 Posted December 11, 2022 3 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Proves @PTW point then about Lawson being an out and out No1! Not really proves he was very good for a short period! Though for whats it worth Lawson has always been a very good heatleader 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
