kitten2502 262 Posted August 10, 2023 I have to make a slight correction to one of Nigel's comments - the meeting was NOWHERE NEAR "packed", although it was fairly well attended. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petecc 352 Posted August 11, 2023 7 hours ago, kitten2502 said: I have to make a slight correction to one of Nigel's comments - the meeting was NOWHERE NEAR "packed", although it was fairly well attended. You have to compare it to other weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deano 1,318 Posted August 11, 2023 I’d like to know why the council lease the land to a property builder/speculator, then question why they want to build houses. I didn’t realise the greyhounds were sub-letters too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,378 Posted August 11, 2023 9 hours ago, kitten2502 said: I have to make a slight correction to one of Nigel's comments - the meeting was NOWHERE NEAR "packed", although it was fairly well attended. You have to wonder how long Nigel can keep throwing money at it.It’s commendable but seems to be going nowhere financially. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HGould 2,213 Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) As I posted on the match thread the Gate looked better on Wednesday. I'd always estimated 450 to 500 each week and the article writer said 600 on Wednesday which would seem about right visually. Nigel said he needed 1000 to break even which we've had a handful of times since the Masons came and through to now. Average over CL era at PB probably 500 ish He must be forking out 50 to 70k a year to support the Club. I know he has an established business but bloody hell that's a lot of badges. He's done all he can, as did David and Peter Mason. With doubts about Stadium it must be like continually filling up your petrol tank and driving round with the sump plug missing. For his own health and welfare I doubt anyone could complain if he walked away. It's sad but even with Coventry and Cradley closed we've probably only gained 50 regulars judging on their old colours and doubt we'd attract many from Wolves of they closed. Sums up the current state of the sport. Only realistic hope I believe is for BV, Ipswich Sheffield, Poole, Oxford, Glasgow who seem solvent or fundable to form a new league and any remaining including some threatened with closure to lok at a hybrid lower CL / upper NDL model eg Berwick, Edinburgh, Redcar, Scunny, Leicester, KL, Workington, and hope Wolves and Plymouth Brummies, Mildenhall, Kent can hang on somehow (sorry if missed anyone out) Edited August 11, 2023 by HGould clarity 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,378 Posted August 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, HGould said: As I posted on the match thread the Gate looked better on Wednesday. I'd always estimated 450 to 500 each week and the article writer said 600 on Wednesday which would seem about right visually. Nigel said he needed 1000 to break even which we've had a handful of times since the Masons came and through to now. Average over CL era at PB probably 500 ish He must be forking out 50 to 70k a year to support the Club. I know he has an established business but bloody hell that's a lot of badges. He's done all he can, as did David and Peter Mason. With doubts about Stadium it must be like continually filling up your petrol tank and driving round with the sump plug missing. For his own health and welfare I doubt anyone could complain if he walked away. It's sad but even with Coventry and Cradley closed we've probably only gained 50 regulars judging on their old colours and doubt we'd attract many from Wolves of they closed. Sums up the current state of the sport. Only realistic hope I believe is for BV, Ipswich Sheffield, Poole, Oxford, Glasgow who seem solvent or fundable to form a new league and any remaining including some threatened with closure to lok at a hybrid lower CL / upper NDL model eg Berwick, Edinburgh, Redcar, Scunny, Leicester, KL, Workington, and hope Wolves and Plymouth Brummies, Mildenhall, Kent can hang on somehow (sorry if missed anyone out) The sport is in a perilous state regarding future of so many Clubs difficult too envisage what going to be the future even as early as next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SSL84 541 Posted August 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Deano said: I’d like to know why the council lease the land to a property builder/speculator, then question why they want to build houses. I didn’t realise the greyhounds were sub-letters too. Is it not the greyhounds that have got the lease? I know they use to have it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_martin 1,606 Posted August 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Deano said: I’d like to know why the council lease the land to a property builder/speculator, then question why they want to build houses. I didn’t realise the greyhounds were sub-letters too. Are you sure that's who the lease was agreed with? From memory, the original lease was with the GRA, and has been sold on perhaps several times. No different to buying / selling leasehold houses. Be interesting to see what happens when the lease expires. The local ward councillors oppose the plans for housing. That said, Perry Barr is a Lib-Dem ward in Labour controlled city, and adding hundreds more potential Labour voters could turn Perry Barr into a Labour ward at the next election. It's a dirty and murky old world, that of politics. Nothing would surprise me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tyretrax 2,253 Posted August 11, 2023 24 minutes ago, uk_martin said: That said, Perry Barr is a Lib-Dem ward in Labour controlled city, and adding hundreds more potential Labour voters could turn Perry Barr into a Labour ward at the next election. It's a dirty and murky old world, that of politics. Nothing would surprise me. What if the new householders are all Lib-Dem voters? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deano 1,318 Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, SSL84 said: Is it not the greyhounds that have got the lease? I know they use to have it It says in the article the company with the current lease. taken from the article: As for the council's stance regarding the future of Perry Barr Stadium, a spokesman said: "The city council owns the freehold of the Perry Barr Greyhound Stadium, while the Corbally Group are the long-term leaseholders – so any redevelopment on the site must be agreed with the council as the landowner and through its planning process, in line with local and national policy. Edited August 11, 2023 by Deano Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deano 1,318 Posted August 11, 2023 1 hour ago, uk_martin said: Are you sure that's who the lease was agreed with? From memory, the original lease was with the GRA, and has been sold on perhaps several times. Exactly my thoughts, but see my post above with text taken from the article Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kitten2502 262 Posted August 11, 2023 9 hours ago, Petecc said: You have to compare it to other weeks. With respect, it still could not be classed as "packed". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,035 Posted August 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, kitten2502 said: With respect, it still could not be classed as "packed". Just shows you the current state of British speedway if 600 is classed as packed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted August 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, kitten2502 said: With respect, it still could not be classed as "packed". 3 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Just shows you the current state of British speedway if 600 is classed as packed. Dunno, could depend on what size the folk were?,,, chuck a few salad dodgers in and it might look fuller. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted August 11, 2023 It probably seemed 'packed' to Nigel since he took over!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
