New Club for 2024?

[HGould 2,213]

1 hour ago, longlivefrankie said:

The only dog track in wales as far as i know is the valley greyhound stadium near Ystrad Mynach which about 12 miles from Newport. its been there for a while but is getting licenced.

 

Dont think its suitable but i have read in reports it is opening up to other activities? The home of the Welsh Greyhound Derby - Valley Greyhounds

Thats the one I was referring to. 

Didn't realise it was so close to Newport and presumably within an hour of Cardiff

[Waspman 40]

55 minutes ago, ch958 said:

there is a hospital next door

Think of the benefits when a rider gets injured 

[Skidder1 7,637]

2 hours ago, heathen52 said:

If it's a new Stadium as opposed to new Team then I think The Alexander Stadium could stage a GP on a temporary surface, I have heard Mr Morris has been up around Birmingham a few times lately, of course that may be linked to the SCS efforts, no noise with regards Cradley any return is as far away as it's ever been, Speedway in the West Midlands is hanging by a thread for 2024.

As Toady reported above, the Cradley news is as a result of an article in the Speedy Star this week, naming a new 4-man consortium looking at/for alternative sites.

[HGould 2,213]

10 minutes ago, Skidder1 said:

As Toady reported above, the Cradley news is as a result of an article in the Speedy Star this week, naming a new 4-man consortium looking at/for alternative sites.

Hope they find somewhere but in over 25 years hard to think of anywhere that's not already been spotted and turned down

Unless Councils keener to asset strip and sell than they were. 

 

 

[Skidder1 7,637]

1 hour ago, HGould said:

Thats the one I was referring to. 

Didn't realise it was so close to Newport and presumably within an hour of Cardiff

Maybe its proximity to Newport might explain Phil Morris' background knowledge of it?

[ch958 2,395]

15 hours ago, iainb said:

Unless there's some kind of magical land in the back of a wardrobe where do they expect to find land where everybody else has failed for the last 27 years?

I do wish these things weren't given the oxygen of publicity, it just gives fans false hope

didn't stop Leicester or Redcar after donkey's years

[arnieg 3,651]

1 hour ago, HGould said:

Hope they find somewhere but in over 25 years hard to think of anywhere that's not already been spotted and turned down

Unless Councils keener to asset strip and sell than they were. 

 

 

In which case they'll sell to the highest bidder - a commercial developer - as happened with Edinburgh's new site

[iainb 5,024]

29 minutes ago, ch958 said:

didn't stop Leicester or Redcar after donkey's years

True, and Birmingham and Oxford, I just don't think these speculative stories helps anybody really

[Welwyn 62]

21 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

Maybe its proximity to Newport might explain Phil Morris' background knowledge of it?

Allied with the Senedd wanting to ban Greyhound racing. They could probably do with Speedway as a backup plan. Also, IF Cardiff continues, great chance for a Friday/Sunday meeting.

Edited September 24, 2023 by Welwyn

[longlivefrankie 458]

21 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

Maybe its proximity to Newport might explain Phil Morris' background knowledge of it?

I don't think it's a prospect due hospital nearby and other issues, but would be handy for me one can wish!

Edited September 24, 2023 by longlivefrankie

[Toady 231]

On 9/22/2023 at 9:38 PM, Grachan said:

Oh right. Swindon have got one of those too.

Not quite the same though.The Cradley group had nothing to do with the loss of the heathens track or stadium so have nothing to gain financially at present( if ever) whereas the One in Swindon were as you know directly responsible for the demise of the Robins and are actively trying there best to do scupper any chance of a Coventry revival  Greedy scumbags .

[Skidder1 7,637]

2 hours ago, Toady said:

Not quite the same though.The Cradley group had nothing to do with the loss of the heathens track or stadium so have nothing to gain financially at present( if ever) whereas the One in Swindon were as you know directly responsible for the demise of the Robins and are actively trying there best to do scupper any chance of a Coventry revival  Greedy scumbags .

What I don't quite understand re the Swindon situation is that the Promoters Licence is currently 'on ice'!  Recent photography confirms the track at Blunsdon is still there, new grandstands are erected and the extra noise protection fencing appears in place.

If Matt Ford is that keen on getting involved at Coventry, why wouldn't he be interested in going in at Swindon(as was the plan at some point in the past)  - aside from the size of the rental and the fact he'd have the same landlord (Gaming International) as at Poole, it would be much closer and could attract some Poole fans, whether or not Poole Stadium has a longer lifetime?

Edited September 24, 2023 by Skidder1

[iainb 5,024]

1 minute ago, Skidder1 said:

What I don't quite understand re the Swindon situation is that the Promoters Licence is currently 'on ice'!  Recent photography confirms the track at Blunsdon is still there, new grandstands are erected and the extra noise protection fencing appears in place.

If Matt Ford is that keen on getting involved at Coventry, why wouldn't he be interested in going in at Swindon - aside from the size of the rental and the fact he'd have the same

landlord (Gaming International) as at Poole, it would be much closer and could attract some Poole fans?

Totally agree except for the very last bit... fans will not travel. Something very strange going on at Swindon, haven't really been following what's going on too closely but like you say they appear to have a new stadium a recently built track within that stadium and a promoters licence on ice... but no Speedway!

[Toady 231]

2 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

What I don't quite understand re the Swindon situation is that the Promoters Licence is currently 'on ice'!  Recent photography confirms the track at Blunsdon is still there, new grandstands are erected and the extra noise protection fencing appears in place.

If Matt Ford is that keen on getting involved at Coventry, why wouldn't he be interested in going in at Swindon(as was the plan at some point in the past)  - aside from the size of the rental and the fact he'd have the same landlord (Gaming International) as at Poole, it would be much closer and could attract some Poole fans, whether or not Poole Stadium has a longer lifetime?

Swindon situation as far as I know is that planning deemed that before the final phase of house building on the former east car park 

Could start the new stadium had to be erected.

Gaming int had exchanged contracts with Taylor wimpey earlier in 2022 but unless they commenced rebuild then no houses could be built.I believe it was osbournes intension not to build the stadium but the council and the mp were making it difficult for him at last.

The announcement of the loss of speedway came in September with the spoof venture of swindon motorsports being announced.

The conditions for the new speedway stadium not only included acoustic barrier but monitoring equipment would have to be located adjacent to various properties at certain times and results fed back to council also the car parking situation during and after rebuild would be almost non existent and with a former park and ride location nearby now home to amazon vehicles  would not be of any use now.

With new housing that has been built since 2019 in close proximity both sides of lady lane the residents would no doubt be up in arms if 300 + cars were being parked randomly in there streets.

I believe therefore that Terry Russell and Co were encouraged to give up their tenure with little prospect of the stadium being completed in another two years(demolition of old stands etc) and all the potential restrictions as above allowing Osborne to conclude that speedway walked away.

To give the spoof company credibility therefore required him (Russell)to use his influence to get his licence put on ice.

To conclude I don’t think there is any chance of speedway returning to the Abbey in the near future imo

Edited September 24, 2023 by Toady

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5 hours ago, Toady said:

Swindon situation as far as I know is that planning deemed that before the final phase of house building on the former east car park 

Could start the new stadium had to be erected.

Gaming int had exchanged contracts with Taylor wimpey earlier in 2022 but unless they commenced rebuild then no houses could be built.I believe it was osbournes intension not to build the stadium but the council and the mp were making it difficult for him at last.

The announcement of the loss of speedway came in September with the spoof venture of swindon motorsports being announced.

The conditions for the new speedway stadium not only included acoustic barrier but monitoring equipment would have to be located adjacent to various properties at certain times and results fed back to council also the car parking situation during and after rebuild would be almost non existent and with a former park and ride location nearby now home to amazon vehicles  would not be of any use now.

With new housing that has been built since 2019 in close proximity both sides of lady lane the residents would no doubt be up in arms if 300 + cars were being parked randomly in there streets.

I believe therefore that Terry Russell and Co were encouraged to give up their tenure with little prospect of the stadium being completed in another two years(demolition of old stands etc) and all the potential restrictions as above allowing Osborne to conclude that speedway walked away.

To give the spoof company credibility therefore required him (Russell)to use his influence to get his licence put on ice.

To conclude I don’t think there is any chance of speedway returning to the Abbey in the near future imo

Could it be that Gaming int think that speedway has negative effect on house prices? Once they have built and sold their houses at maximum value i.e no speedway noise, they may then let the speedway back in and take the rent money from them. It might mean limited car parking and angry residents but it would be up to the council turn the speedway down.