Arthur54 1,302 Posted November 1, 2023 37 minutes ago, lbw said: Kyle Newman confirmed as leaving the Pirates https://britishspeedway.co.uk/cab-direct-championship/newman-leaving-pirates/ That is yesterday's news, you been on that flat white again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, lbw said: Kyle Newman confirmed as leaving the Pirates https://britishspeedway.co.uk/cab-direct-championship/newman-leaving-pirates/ Hate the musical chairs this time of year. Fans favourites moved on, simply because of a points limit which next season is overly harsh. Good luck to Kyle and hopefully he will be back in Pirates colours in the future. Edited November 1, 2023 by Steve Shovlar 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,377 Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: Hate the musical chairs this time of year. Fans favourites moved on, simply because of a points limit which next season is overly harsh. Good luck to Kyle and hopefully he will be back in Pirates colours in the future. Would agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STEVEHOLS54 380 Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) Interesting comments on both main POL Speedway websites today. Seems from next season in all 3 POL Leagues the 2 reserve positions have to be filled by POL Juniors only and not foreign riders. Believe there was flexibility on this in at least Lge 2 in previous seasons which meant top teams like Leszno could loan their young Aussies/Danes to get experience at reserve. Seems that window has closed. Could that maybe sway some young Aussies to consider UK more if they cannot double up U24 POL Lge with another POL LGE ??. The Aussies also cannot ride in the POL jnr League as all riders have to be POL. Assume they could be nominated into a main team in LGE 1/2 but that would pitch these youngsters against much more experienced rivals. I'm sure most won't want to risk throwing riders of this grade into main slots so early. Was thinking about the likes of Zischke/West/Bowes/Cluff/Brown who all rode POL U24 last season. Edited November 1, 2023 by STEVEHOLS54 typo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lbw 869 Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Arthur54 said: That is yesterday's news, you been on that flat white again Lol, was on the flat white in me local Costa when I posted that. Shame Kyle is moving on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: Interesting comments on both main POL Speedway websites today. Seems from next season in all 3 POL Leagues the 2 reserve positions have to be filled by POL Juniors only and not foreign riders. Believe there was flexibility on this in at least Lge 2 in previous seasons which meant top teams like Leszno could loan their young Aussies/Danes to get experience at reserve. Seems that window has closed. Could that maybe sway some young Aussies to consider UK more if they cannot double up U24 POL Lge with another POL LGE ??. The Aussies also cannot ride in the POL jnr League as all riders have to be POL. Assume they could be nominated into a main team in LGE 1/2 but that would pitch these youngsters against much more experienced rivals. I'm sure most won't want to risk throwing riders of this grade into main slots so early. Was thinking about the likes of Zischke/West/Bowes/Cluff/Brown who all rode POL U24 last season. I mentioned that a while back when they were only talking Div 2!! Now it's all 3 Polish leagues it may.not be just young Aussies it affects Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STEVEHOLS54 380 Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: I mentioned that a while back when they were only talking Div 2!! Now it's all 3 Polish leagues it may.not be just young Aussies it affects Only mentioned Aussies due to our obvious connection with them over our history plus with the 38 point rule for 2024. Of course it covers all foreign riders. It's interesting because Leszno took this route with Rew in 2022 where he rode Leszno U24 plus 7 matches for Krosno in Lge 1 as a reserve. A rider like Tate Zischke and all other young foreigners mow won't be able to ride at reserve in all 3 leagues. Does that open the door maybe to allow some of them to try Champ even with Sat and the odd Sunday as it would not clash with POL matches if they are not in the teams. Of course if they were signed as one of the 1-5 riders then that changes things. Can't se that happening with most of the younger riders at this stage. Of course for Poole there is still the Wed race night against the POL U24 Tuesday's, but riders like Zack Cook did it in 2022 and other young riders in Champ also doubled up with UK. Only mentioned it due to both POL speedway sites highlighting the new rule today, and the fact it maybe makes the Champ potential 30 match or so season look more attractive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Endeavour 681 Posted November 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Hate the musical chairs this time of year. Fans favourites moved on, simply because of a points limit which next season is overly harsh. Good luck to Kyle and hopefully he will be back in Pirates colours in the future. One of the best riders at Armadale this season. Great team man loses his team position because of a stupid points limit that no fan is in favour of. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gazc 7,101 Posted November 1, 2023 53 minutes ago, Endeavour said: One of the best riders at Armadale this season. Great team man loses his team position because of a stupid points limit that no fan is in favour of. Sometimes it feels like turn up, pay your money , and be quiet. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,637 Posted November 1, 2023 Rumoured to be a Poole target, Tom Brennan signs for Swedish league Indianerna! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toady 231 Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Endeavour said: One of the best riders at Armadale this season. Great team man loses his team position because of a stupid points limit that no fan is in favour of. Out of interest, what system would you use for team building ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,377 Posted November 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Rumoured to be a Poole target, Tom Brennan signs for Swedish league Indianerna! With this stupid watering down and lowering averages 6.58- 8.00 men will be looking elsewhere abroad.It’s ludicrous.9-10 Team Championship means not much room for riders with that average. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HGould 2,213 Posted November 1, 2023 6 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: Interesting comments on both main POL Speedway websites today. Seems from next season in all 3 POL Leagues the 2 reserve positions have to be filled by POL Juniors only and not foreign riders. Believe there was flexibility on this in at least Lge 2 in previous seasons which meant top teams like Leszno could loan their young Aussies/Danes to get experience at reserve. Seems that window has closed. Could that maybe sway some young Aussies to consider UK more if they cannot double up U24 POL Lge with another POL LGE ??. The Aussies also cannot ride in the POL jnr League as all riders have to be POL. Assume they could be nominated into a main team in LGE 1/2 but that would pitch these youngsters against much more experienced rivals. I'm sure most won't want to risk throwing riders of this grade into main slots so early. Was thinking about the likes of Zischke/West/Bowes/Cluff/Brown who all rode POL U24 last season. Well done Poland. What a shame we can't do exactly the same and boost our young talent. Frankly would any on that list enhance British Speedway to the detriment of Pijper, Perry, Boughen, James, Harrison etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,377 Posted November 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, HGould said: Well done Poland. What a shame we can't do exactly the same and boost our young talent. Frankly would any on that list enhance British Speedway to the detriment of Pijper, Perry, Boughen, James, Harrison etc. Poland are looking after the own talent,it going to be a tough gig for mediocre young Brits( and we have a few) compared to other Foreign Countries.It’s been coming for years IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Endeavour 681 Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Toady said: Out of interest, what system would you use for team building ? Think you I would go with 2 solid heat leaders. 2 second strings and three , the 2 pointer and try identify young riders for the final 2 spaces who could put a good couple of points on average. Easier said than done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites