Scuntffield 2024

[Sings4Speedway 3,247]

4 hours ago, phillwhitewasmad said:

Don't agree the teams running NDL all have the opportunity to run practices and or amateur meetings to cover costs

Kent had a great opportunity to run extra meetings and make extra cash....look how that turned out.

[phillwhitewasmad 1,487]

1 hour ago, Sings4Speedway said:

Kent had a great opportunity to run extra meetings and make extra cash....look how that turned out.

Kent run loads of practice sessions so works well for them what they couldn't do was run another speedway meeting were payment was being made to riders. Different discussion altogether do feel it was wrong to prevent it though

[Sir Sidney 292]

15 hours ago, phillwhitewasmad said:

Kent run loads of practice sessions so works well for them what they couldn't do was run another speedway meeting were payment was being made to riders. Different discussion altogether do feel it was wrong to prevent it though

Actually, that's not correct. It's got nothing to do with whether riders are being paid or not. The SCB are using motor racing case law (Goodwood case) to say that no other motor bike activity should take place on an SCB licenced track outside of SCB events. Therefore, in it's view, no NORA licenced events (or any other non SCB event), training or otherwise, should be taking place on SCB licenced tracks. However, SCB only chose to enforce that to stop the NORA league meeting taking place at Iwade. 

[szkocjasid 3,042]

7 hours ago, Sir Sidney said:

Actually, that's not correct. It's got nothing to do with whether riders are being paid or not. The SCB are using motor racing case law (Goodwood case) to say that no other motor bike activity should take place on an SCB licenced track outside of SCB events. Therefore, in it's view, no NORA licenced events (or any other non SCB event), training or otherwise, should be taking place on SCB licenced tracks. However, SCB only chose to enforce that to stop the NORA league meeting taking place at Iwade. 

Does the Motocross events held at Kings Lynn count as motor racing on an SCB licenced track? Maybe they'll say because they've added jumps etc it's ok?

[Come on the Skipper 75]

8 hours ago, Sir Sidney said:

Actually, that's not correct. It's got nothing to do with whether riders are being paid or not. The SCB are using motor racing case law (Goodwood case) to say that no other motor bike activity should take place on an SCB licenced track outside of SCB events. Therefore, in it's view, no NORA licenced events (or any other non SCB event), training or otherwise, should be taking place on SCB licenced tracks. However, SCB only chose to enforce that to stop the NORA league meeting taking place at Iwade. 

Have you got a link at all for this Goodwood case please?

[secsy1 213]

15 minutes ago, Come on the Skipper said:

Have you got a link at all for this Goodwood case please?

Well after a 2 minute search looks like it could be related to Wattleworth v Goodwood Road Racing Company and conclusions therein.

[Sir Sidney 292]

1 hour ago, Come on the Skipper said:

Have you got a link at all for this Goodwood case please?

Wattleworth v Goodwood Road Racing Company Ltd & Ors | [2004] EWHC 140 (QB) | England and Wales High Court (Queen's Bench Division) | Judgment | Law | CaseMine

[Sir Sidney 292]

1 hour ago, secsy1 said:

Well after a 2 minute search looks like it could be related to Wattleworth v Goodwood Road Racing Company and conclusions therein.

Correct Wattleworth v Goodwood Road Racing Company Ltd & Ors | [2004] EWHC 140 (QB) | England and Wales High Court (Queen's Bench Division) | Judgment | Law | CaseMine

[Sir Sidney 292]

2 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

Does the Motocross events held at Kings Lynn count as motor racing on an SCB licenced track? Maybe they'll say because they've added jumps etc it's ok?

This is the case Wattleworth v Goodwood Road Racing Company Ltd & Ors | [2004] EWHC 140 (QB) | England and Wales High Court (Queen's Bench Division) | Judgment | Law | CaseMine

Look at the duty of care issues. In simple terms, The MSA was held to have a duty of care to Mr Wattleworth, even though the event at which he lost his life was not an MSA event. Indeed MSA were found to have a duty of care for any motor activity on the circuit. Therefore, using that logic, the SCB concludes it has a duty of care for any NORA events on an SCB licenced track and could be exposed to a legal liability - however, they chose only to take issue with Iwade staging a NORA league meeting, not any other NORA events  (including one shortly after where an SCB board member took part).  

If you accept the SCB interpretation of the case then any motorcycling event on an SCB licenced track creates a potential liability for them - and so whether that is motorcross, Dirt Track Events meetings, Flat Track meetings, track days, practice sessions, private hire etc not held under SCB then it should have applied the same sanctions to the promoters of those tracks as it applied to Kent. 

As it happens, I believe the SCB interpretation is incorrect, but if I was an affected party then I would get a legal opinion.

As a postscript then it is worth noting a quote from Si Kellow in Speedway Star where he is quoted as saying

' Secondly, after being used as a tool to get at a club which isn't part of the SCB and BSPL anymore, I can't condone being part of a group which uses those practices'. (page 7 Speedway Star December 2 ) 

[Come on the Skipper 75]

6 hours ago, Sir Sidney said:

Wattleworth v Goodwood Road Racing Company Ltd & Ors | [2004] EWHC 140 (QB) | England and Wales High Court (Queen's Bench Division) | Judgment | Law | CaseMine

Thanks very much, I will take a look.

[Ryan555 144]

Positive start to team building with Ace and Stene Pijper just announced 

[szkocjasid 3,042]

How about?

Scunfield
Nathan Ablitt	8.49
Luke Harrison	6.86
Ace Pijper	5.81
Alex Spooner	5.07
Luke Crang	3.61
Senna Summers	3.00
Stene Pijper	3.00
Total	35.84

[szkocjasid 3,042]

On 12/6/2023 at 7:03 PM, Ryan555 said:

Positive start to team building with Ace and Stene Pijper just announced 

Agreed, two good signings.

[Fozzie4388 679]

Senna is off to Oxford I believe.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Kean Dicken, Lee's lad in the Scunny/Sheffield Line-up 

[PotteringAround 633]

Where will Sam McGurk be in 2024?    Surely he needs NDL as well as his Championship meetings?   Scunny & Sheffield local to him?