Aries 443 Posted April 22 56 minutes ago, AceBelle said: well they are obviously going to back him up !! 2 minutes ago, scaramanga said: no one has every sugessted anyone telling lies just raised the question will scb see the cases as the same im certainly not judging any of the 2 riders just asking the question lets not get silly and start the usual forum slanging match just debate where the line is drawn Well AceBelle is clearly suggesting that from his post whichever way you try and spin it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stu219 94 Posted April 22 8 minutes ago, mikebv said: Let's hope Doyley gets his compo... Although, if he flew Ryanair, it may take a "while".... Lol that’s true but he should get £220 for a delay over 3 hours so make sure Jason that you claim it. When we got delayed over night in Salzberg in January we ended up getting £700 between the two of us and got to stay in the poshest hotel we have ever stayed in for the night. wasn’t much of a hardship lol w 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siggysigalos 31 Posted April 22 Doyley will be in Ipswich's septet on Thursday against Sheffield. No doubt about that. But i fear the final Score tonight..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedwayFan91 101 Posted April 22 27 minutes ago, hammer1969 said: I daresay they are trying to work out what to do/say as unlike Tungate he didn't miss his flight he was actually on the plane. Personally I don't think Doyle/Ipswich should be penalised for something that was clearly not their fault. It may not have been Tungate’s fault that he missed the plane completely though… may have been something beyond his control that forced him to miss it. Doyle should and probably will get a 7 day ban aswell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,802 Posted April 22 1 hour ago, chun said: not sure why this has stoked up so much controversy. witches clearly weakened by doyle’s absence. no reason doyle would choose to miss the meeting. early intervention taken by the witches management to ensure they field a competitive side… I think his poor score in Poland has led to one or two people putting two and two together and getting considerably more than four. By all accounts it all seems completely beyond his control and just one of those things, I guess it might make him want to get an earlier flight in future so there is some wriggle room if necessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noaksey 345 Posted April 22 28 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said: Which is what JYe said. He probably left his car at stanstead and was going to drive up. And I know for sure in past Jason always travels to belle Vue in his own car when He can pick me up next time I'm 5 mins from the terminal! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaramanga 907 Posted April 22 3 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I think his poor score in Poland has led to one or two people putting two and two together and getting considerably more than four. By all accounts it all seems completely beyond his control and just one of those things, I guess it might make him want to get an earlier flight in future so there is some wriggle room if necessary. i started the debate ive not seen his polish score but i know he goes real well at bell vue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arch Stanton 2,267 Posted April 22 (edited) 24 minutes ago, siggysigalos said: Doyley will be in Ipswich's septet on Thursday against Sheffield. No doubt about that. But i fear the final Score tonight..... If a 10 point defeat was offered now I’d bite your hand off. Bringing the bonus point back would be a good nights work and keep us ticking along nicely. Edited April 22 by Arch Stanton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scoobydoo 2,258 Posted April 22 It is surely the riders responsibility to get to a meeting from wherever he/she starts there journey from, Tungate i believe said he was stuck in traffic holdups on route to the airport , was it then his fault for the hold ups but he ended up with a ban and fine so why not Doyle, Assume an investigation is held by the SCB to find out what the rider actually did and to provide proof of there actions to resolve the travel issue in an attempt to still make the meeting If Tungate and Doyle were both therefore not in a position to make alternative arrangements given time scales etc then they should be treated in the same manner , But this is British Speedway and at times no 2 cases that seem the same have the same outcome sadly . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,069 Posted April 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, scaramanga said: and 1 rider could take a road covered in nails and get 4 punctures another could set off earlier and miss the spill off nails we will have to wait and see its just like a ref can pull race back for first bend bunching but let the next 1 go for very similar incidents in a neutral fan here id rather doyle was in race to make it a good battle but im just asking tungate could have broke down on way to airport and missed his flight who knows The trouble is in this new era of transparency we have no idea what went on with Tungate, the SCB don't seem answerable to the media, public or fans Edited April 22 by iainb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaramanga 907 Posted April 22 is it 10 years and we can request info under the data laws ha ha 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dornier 797 Posted April 22 The Ipswich teams a bit Pick & Mix. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,069 Posted April 22 1 hour ago, Aries said: You can’t ban a rider for sitting on his booked flight, and then through no fault of his own is told to get off it! That’s just ludicrous. Almost as ludicrous as penalising a team for 1 night because a rider has not passed a drugs test Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeneralMelchett 504 Posted April 22 1 hour ago, hammer1969 said: I daresay they are trying to work out what to do/say as unlike Tungate he didn't miss his flight he was actually on the plane. Personally I don't think Doyle/Ipswich should be penalised for something that was clearly not their fault. I imagine they will want statements from the club / rider etc - but I suspect they will be consistent and apply a fine and 7 day ban but let’s see! Tungate could argue a motorway accident in Poland wasn't his fault either as I think that’s why he missed his flight? . Either way a rule has been broken and a penalty will follow if there is no punishment for Doyle if I were Oxford I’d be appealing and complaining about Tungates! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,659 Posted April 22 1 hour ago, GeneralMelchett said: You will think I am being a pedant here - there is a news item on the BSPA website stating he isn’t there and why - that’s not an official SCB statement to me! I have never said I disbelieve or doubt anything said - it’s just I still expect an official SCB statement in this! As yet no offence has been committed. I assume that once the meeting is finished and the ACU referee submits his report the SCB will put out a statement saying they are investigating, and another one about the outcome. There seems an awful lot of sound and fury over very little at the moment. Doyle missed his plane. He will plead his case emphasising the mitigating circumstances and the SCB will adjudicate. Until then there's not much to be said. At least (unlike Oxford) the Witches have been able to find a 75% guest - ironically from Oxford! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
