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Please enlighten us then all knowing one.

skidder youve got to stop trying to defend the indefensible, youve got to be honest and admit it was disgusting,the people that will presumably look for credit when things go well must have the nuts to take and admit responsibilty for the "cock up"Spoke to two significant sponsors in the last 48 hrs both totally disgusted,one says he went into the pits to ask middlo who won heat 13 cause he couldnt see!!them and me will all be at the next meeting,thats what we do! but if certain people put their hands up and were honest it would have helped

Imo Peterborough have a beautiful track

If you are going to quote me DO NOT insinuate that I have said something about it being perfect when I clearly have not said any such thing. As a long time Panthers fan as opposed to you who refers to watching on video and TV what I will say to you is that I am certain my knowledge of the circumstances, set up and quality of the racing at the Eoes is far superior to yours, whereas I am as clueless about your club and track as you are ours and would not dream of trying to advise you as to how it could be improved. Quite frankly I’m not interested in it and don’t give a toss! I would suggest you concentrate your time and effort on Stoke Potters track and leave myself and the rest of the Peterborough fans on here to worry about ours as we see fit. As others have said in response to your last post Peterborough is probably way down on the list of tracks in the UK which need widening or improving and it’s 99.9% certain our Landlords would never agree to it. Who by the way is going to pick up the Tab for the cost of such work? Not the SHOWGROUND who are happy with the site as it is! We are now owned by Buster Chapman in case you hadn’t realised so that’s a definite no there as well in my opinion. Meanwhile back in the real world we have a meeting tomorrow against one of Buster’s other teams the Stars - will you be there? You could have a word with him and put your suggestions across personally. Good luck with that!

There’s no credit in buying the title with a bunch of mercenaries.

How would making the track at Peterborough wider improve the racing? It’s plenty wide enough with multiple racing lines. Track prep is the key at the showground, not adding an extra metre or so....

I'm not one for condoning knee jerk reactions and would normally give riders plenty of time to settle, but after seeing Luke in the first meeting it was obvious he is not ready for this league..........but I thought to myself "who could we replace him with?" After last night's performance my question was answered.......ANYONE. He looked totally uncomfortable on the bike and was really riding like a total novice at some points showing little or no confidence. I really feel sorry for him but it's obvious he needs more time on the bike without the pressures of being in this league. It will only worsen his confidence if he remains.

You should always prepare a track properly whether rain is forecast or not, if rains arrives and it’s heavy or prolonged it’s off anyway, if it doesn’t arrive or not as much as anticipated you get dust and everyone attending wears the track home. Tracks like Poole produced Friday are just not acceptable. Interesting that the match report mentions dust but no apologies to the paying customers. Pretty much sums up the managements consideration for the supporters.

Poole special

Kings' management have egg on their face for their decision to use r/r for Kemp at Plymouth. Not a single point from his rides. No wonder they lost.

I’ve been to Peterborough umpteen times since my first visit in 1991 and would never describe it as gate and go. It wasn’t even before the widening in 2001. I’m sure all tracks would benefit from being wider but if you were doing a list of UK circuits in order of priority of the need to be widened then the EoES would be way, way down the list.

Nonsense imo. If Buster had allowed Craig coloured sponsors then he'd of had a game with the other 6 rider's. Buster in this case 100% right, and Craig has made himself 110% poorer.

Not to mention Harris who would have rode for us if we had offered him a position.

I'll not even entertain the first paragraph because I don't want you to keep digging that hole, you might never get out. As regards the EoES: for 30 years on a regular weekly basis we were the prime valued user of the site with only the annual agricultural show otherwise taking place that I can recall. A change of administration with different priorities in a shrinking showground being sold off for housing, the consequent reduction in access roads, the Arena springing up and much more use of the site gave the perception (and fixtures, health and safety issues would probably bear that out) that speedway is now an afterthought and source of regular, if not particulary significant income. Annoyance isn't the right word but they certainly wag the dog as no home fixtures from July 15 to Sept 2 indicate. The product has been dummed down for years, that's why people talk about survival. The tracks were always fine but the rider quality has got worse. You can have your most perfect track in the world but if you're not putting out riders of sufficient quality to do it justice then the product will be poor. That's the key that we wasted over the Sky years which is why speedway is continuing down the Hahnenkamm.

Class me as a " homer" if you wish, but I'm a Panthers fan (although it is by far from being my nearest track), largely due to the quality of racing on track, and the excellent viewing facilities. Although the riders enjoy the surface this season, it is probably too good with even grip on inside and outside, to allow for the renowned fence scraping bursts from the back. Widening it would do very little in my opinion to improve the product on show.

Only bettered by everyone's number one The National Speedway Stadium

Apologies are acceptable, if it’s a one off or beyond the promotions control. The fact that this is a regular issue is no more than lip service to the paying customer.

I’m so looking forward to my 2nd favourite place to watch Speedway at later in the year. Great track, and great racing usually.

Sorry you can’t make it but hopefully we will avoid a “Dustfest” now that this meeting has been put back - did you see the photos at Poole Friday afternoon? Dust was so bad it was hard to tell which rider was which!

To put this to bed I think there were 2 diverging issues here in hindsight. (1) there was a queue, all turnstiles from what I could see were open and Eastbourne decided to assure us in the queue that we would be getting in b4 the meeting started but didn't announce that to the fans inside as (2) possibly (and i have no proof) it suited them that there was a queue as they were waiting for Lawson to arrive....which he did at 5 to 3. He was not on Parade but rode unbeaten all day by an opponent. Probably preferable to starting with people outside and knowing that and doing nothing, but probably should have told people inside although it was warm and sunny and most probably didn't notice. Queues to get in though at 3 Speedway Fixtures on Friday at least, is I think something we can all celebrate.

Tarkens wanted lower tier, and all that`s left are top tier and VIP tickets.

Isn't it about time that you found a new theme because you are pretty boring now.

Was the bowser a mirage? If there are any changes to be made, would Camel Brzozowski fit. Would Wilson, Keppel and Betty be a more appealing heat leader trio? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilson,_Keppel_and_Betty

You are overlooking the fact that this track is located on a SHOWGROUND that is used (and was built for) for many other activities with speedway really as a sideshow. As for “Rules” re the fence our Landlords are most unlikely to be interested in those - we count ourselves fortunate to stilll be able to watch racing here anything else especially what you are suggesting is just a pipe dream.

I can’t answer that - each track homologation differs in its requirements. I suspect that the Showground authorities would be reluctant to have the fence moved in front of the grandstand (or at all) - speedway is only one user of the track and surrounding facilities.

Good win by the Diamonds tonight with a hard fought battle against the Monarchs. Hats off to TJ and another very impressive performance from Clegg, gets better week on week. Gr8 to see Wethers amongst the points and Bjerre's haul would have been greater if not for a retirement and a team riding attempt which didn't quite work. Lambert still a worry but Phillips has to go, he's not good enough for this level, simple as.

The Team Manager should be smart enough to recognise the vulnerability in ht8 and switch reserves. Im not liking the look of this one!

Where’s odsal boy still doing the ironing

Pretty dusty at Sheffield today going by the photos too!

Bomber is back now anyway,,, which leads me to a prediction of a Swindon win by 16 to 20

Heat 9 from fridays meeting.

Fearsome three pronged attack of heat leaders, Doyley, Muesli, Batch, best in the league. Ipswich can only hope one of those or Ellis Lampost and the reserves have off night to be in with chance of a point. Will do well to stop Robins hitting 50.

Lowering the points limit didn't exactly help matters, all it has done is water the product down even more meaning teams are introducing young riders or in Luke's case an injured rider returning who are not ready for this level. They are given team places based on average rather than ability , it will do more harm than good in the long run.

How about the SCB and their Referee get a grip and sort this issue out once and for all and if necessary hold up proceedings until it's sorted. If there is insufficient opportunity to prepare a decent track then postpone before the event and bowlocks to the Bank Holiday big crowd that boosts the coffers. They're saying that anyway by not watering adequately. Whoever walked that track before the meeting knew what was coming, the only reasonable excuse for dust is when rain is forecast around start time but nowhere near like that.

True there were a few at Poole friday thankfully not serious and no injuries.

There are crashes at most tracks and we all hope they are never serious.

I've always liked the racing at P/borough, evan the races that are gate and go can be close exciting speedway, we witness that fairly regular now at the NSS, so in a nutshell, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

There will be crashes and I’m not afraid to say that I hope they are not serious, whether you think it’s boring or not.

Swindon record away to Poole since 2017 45-47 WON 36-56 WON 44-46 WON 38-52 WON 54-36 LOST 37-53 WON

Any track is dependant on how much water has got into the base. It needs to be put in early as possible and left to soak in then worked. The colour of the track during a meeting is a usually a telltale of what stage they are at with water. Tracks start dark due to the water content but if it goes pink on the racing lines after few races more water at that stage is a give away. Mark Thorpe when he was at Newcastle in the 90's told me that in NZ, they went to the track early, soaked the track and then had a barbie. Seems like a very social way of doing work.

So, so far @ Poole they in the first meeting had a delayed start cause they couldn't be arsed to pump up the fkn air fence at practice meaning leaving it to race night, then 2nd meeting the dust was so bad and no water bowser out really turning into a joke at wimborne road already.

Would have either. The irony if Holder returned

Nonsense. Belle Vue started at 1pm yesterday and Scunthorpe at 5.30. At both (especially Belle Vue) it was very hot and breezy. There was no dust at Belle Vue and very little at Scunthorpe. Neither track had a blue line and the racing at the NSS was decent, at EWR very good. I am not aware that Andy Meredith or Rob Godfrey have a magic wand, so if they can produce good racing strips for riders and customers alike so can anyone else. I should point out that the crowd at Belle Vue was the biggest I have ever seen for a Colts meeting and at Scunthorpe it was at least double that of last Sunday (word was they ran out of programmes). Bank Holiday afternoon meetings work extremely well if you can be bothered to put the time and trouble in to make sure that the track is up to scratch.

The wide open spaces of Belle Vue and Petebrough are a lot different to Foxhall. Bewley struggled on the tight grippy circuit.. but great to see him back on a bike again.

Nobody is ignoring that fact and i would think we all want to see Dan back to the level he was at. Foxhall isnt his favourite place anyway We were written off at the start and its nice to prove the doubters wrong

Down the pit.... 24 hour shifts too... Seven days a week.....

Neil has already confirmed that it doesn’t have the space to increase so complete nonsense. At least your bottom line is absolutely correct. The tracks are the stage and should always be a priority.

Why don't you naff off this thread , don't like reading it , don't , no -one got a gun to your head so you jog on and move on .........

May 6: Swindon v PeterboroughMay 20: Ipswich v WolverhamptonJune 3: Belle Vue v IpswichJune 17: Poole v WolverhamptonJuly 1: Belle Vue v PooleJuly 8: King’s Lynn v PooleJuly 15: Peterborough v Belle VueJuly 29: British FinalAugust 12: Wolverhampton v PeterboroughAugust 19: Poole v SwindonSeptember 2: Wolverhampton v King's LynnSeptember 9: King's Lynn v Poole

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