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Right,,,, where are the usual suspects,,, I need help falling asleep. Any win at Poole is a good win,, well done the Panthers

Please come back when you know what your talking about ....

Wait for the R/R made Panthers stronger post to follow

Hans is back to his old best. The man is winding the clock back.

Hardly the dramatic team changes we hoped for but to be fair not sure what was really available Good luck to Jacob Best wishes to Simon - he obviously tried and gave 100% but sadly Brough just isn't his track and probably best decision for both parties But he will always be welcomed back even as an opposition rider - he gave it 100% and that's all we can ask

How about Monday Monday by the Mamas and Papas. That seems more appropriate for a Speedway race night these days.

What price all three Buster tracks in the Play Offs

Well done agent Ellis

Well done Peterborough! Just loving this team after I saw them ride on Bank Holiday Monday at their home track. (Possibly one of the best tracks in this division). Good to see Hans at his best.

Only goes to show there will only be room for one Andersen in the Panthers team

Well done Panthers.

No doubt the usual garbage from the usual people will be spouting later how Peterborough should of got 4 points tonight and not 3 ....

OOPS

Remember your love ins with Linus all those years ago. Are you over MJJ yet?

Wow.... what a win that was! Hans was superb and everyone chipped in barring the guest. BWD to reserve will make us only stronger.

Silence is the golden rule in Speedway, another reason why people give up on it...

Looks like Rasmus has just finished third in Danish Championship behind Kenneth Bjerre and NKI but ahead of Nicki Pedersen and MJJ

Shouldn't be a problem badge,,,, ony one of them can have the bit at the back at one time.

9 teams without a fixture on Saturday, 7 without a fixture on Sunday. Plenty to choose from just getting the right rider to do the job.

Read an interview in SS with Wajtkneckt a few weeks ago. Said he has problems switching from grasstrack(?) to speedway, and that it takes him a few rides to get back into the hang of things with speedway. I don't know how often he does grasstrack, but surely coming out and saying something like that isn't the best policy?

Does it really matter, the match is done.

Allen hoping to return Monday,,, excellent news.

well if he needs something to drink he can always buy a programme!! From the Bandits' Facebook Page "Shielfield Park is the place to be in Berwick this Saturday night and we are feeling generous... Simply purchase your match day magazine and receive a free drink voucher! Cash in your voucher at any Bandits outlet on Saturday night and receive any beverage of your choice on us" Also repeating the Kids for Free ticket and prize draw - winner gets a Bandits' Junior Bodycolour - which proved very popular on its debut against Sheffield. If the youngsters haven't got a ticket through their schools Buddy will have some at the turnstiles and they are available from the Box Office entrance too.

Does anyone know the suggested team riding order on Monday? My view would be the following 1. Lambert (R) 2.Palm Toft 3. Proctor 4. Jorgensen 5. Cook 6. Kerr 7. Lambert (S)

Sadly the Boomtown Rats "I don't like Mondays" may be more appropriate.

Ulrich is quite simply useless and the only place he is heading, is the reserve berths IF he survives that long. Should be out of the door immediately Zach simply isn’t a fraction as good as he or his crew think he is and, he hasn’t got the bottle or the balls to be a speedway rider. Sorry. Once again last night he showed his lack of bottle. In his second ride, made a half decent gate but when he had both Eastbourne riders by him approaching the third bend, he CLEARLY shut the throttle off and pulled out of it. Not acceptable. Nathan Stoneman put both rides to shame, yet again Tom Bacon showed why he is such a firm fans favourite and just what a miss he is, not being in the team. I’d like to see BradleyWilson Dean plus one other, in for Ully and Zach and if not him then simply anyone will do me as opposed to those two makes you wonder just what Danyon Hume has done to upset the management and not be in the team. I know Laurence Rogers is worried about Danyon’s history of shoulder injuries but that shows just what a muppet Rogers is. He’s the third person that should be out of the door WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT. This club will never get anywhere whilst he’s involved. History tells its own story about muppet Rogers!!!!

The slicker the track the better the racing is at nesr all tracks. It's a bloody myth that grip gives good racing. Grip just makes the guys in front quicker meaning harder to pass Keep the track slick. Dont grade it till about heat 10 which allows a little dirt line out by the fence which then gives an extra racing line for the riders. But then I'm no track curator so probably talking bullcrap

Bradley is a lovely lad, very genuine.

Quote by the promotion from the Devils Gladiators forum: This weeks meeting is cancelled, the clay hasn’t turned up at the track as yet , 10am Wednesday, I and i cannot guarantee that the track will be ready. I do not like to disappoint fans by not having a meeting , I also do not like disappointing fans with copious amounts of dust. Last week we had the local councillors in attendance to monitor and noise test the Quads, and was probably dismayed at the dust as was I. I have not been able to sort mixed shale, the only quarry producing quality shale at the moment is in Scotland, therefore I am awaiting pure ball clay and will endeavour to mix it myself and hopefully sort the problem . >>>SORRY GUYS ....... Read more: http://plymouthdevils.proboards.com/thread/9872/gladiators-cradley-31-2019-cancelled?page=1#ixzz5pL6dBrA8

Probably so, but the state of the track doesn't have to be so grippy. I'm sure he could remove most of the top surface,. The slick conditions would create a far better spectacle then we usually witness. I am of the feeling the track is grippy to give the home side a bigger advantage, but the results is of no importance if the fans stay at home... I've always thought excitement is what keep the fans happy... not bored with processional follow the leader...

Negative negative. I applaud any club who can admit that their track is not fit for use. It doesn't show the club in a good light but an honest one.

Havn't you got a team to support ? Because it strikes me you live and die on the Poole thread.

Why did a top Manager like Middlo go for Ellis, must have done his homework, surely ?

Well done P’boro, starting to look like a decent side with further strengthening potentially to come.

Yes you can Dudek more than 9 with spread stretcher

Well done Poole in booking a guest in Ellis who hates the place Ipswich and Peterborough.... 2 teams mocked by many ...... seems like they are looking good for the top 4 along with Belle Vue ..... then you have Wolves possibly

Cant see that he's ridden in Sweden, shocking from either Rohan or our management for not saying anything!

Not to shabby a replacement, will score more than Sedgmen has been. Shame josh is out for a bit though.

Its the transport that makes shale expensive . Glyn taylor posted the acutal prices once , it was something like .£300 a load for the shale .and £1500 to deliver it

Like I said in earlier post I fully understand your frustration and annoyance. Not trying to make excuses as things need to be turned round PDQ. Just saying where I’m in regular contact with him, I can assure you he’s as *****d off about things as you and other fans are.

Don't think I've ever seen anyone go into a bend quicker at Glasgow than Robert Lambert at one particular meeting. Can't remember his overall performance though.....that overtaking move just sticks in my head.

Ash was superb for Birmingham last night . His form has really picked up last few meetings 8,10 and 11 hopefully he can carry that over too you boys .

I'd even rate him top ten - he's definitely Grand Prix level - and a highly exciting rider to watch !

Like you a real fan and i still believe he is in the top 20 riders in the world.

Couple of changes and the Brum side instantly look much better. Oystercard was never a number 1 (although the only thing he is currently doing is sticking 2 fingers up to the supporters) not sure what he is doing this year but must be either running on the cheap or on a guarantee as this level of poor can't be sustainable?. Stoneman has a huge set of stones and that brings plenty of points and hopefully can stay fit for once. I really feel for Zach as its just not working for him, even a move to 5 isn't as hung out as you would think and yet his confidence is still shot. I fear he will lose both team places soon and may consider a short break from the sport but has too much talent to not come back?

No,no.no just the one Lambert,you can take Simon up to your place

SS you're not wrong and everyone who is/was passionate about the Comets is hurting, however I am not sure any of the former promotion who quite rightly should be applauded for their success in 2018 will want to disclose their role in the demise of the club and its ultimate failure to come to the tapes in 2019 or to give any details on what has actually gone on with the track or stadium. I would also add to that (non-disclosure) list any discussions that went on with third parties; the council; or the other sporting clubs involved. What I can add is; that there was a genuine intention to run this year however finances dictated otherwise before the track/ground issues were even considered. For me and as close as I was to the promotion they did try their best but the path they ultimately chose (or were led down) was not sustainable and unless you have a vibrant club (support wise) and in the Comets case that would have been around 750 adults paying around an average of £15:00 each per meeting the whole thing financially was not viable; then of course you could always look to a benefactor who has cash to spare and loves Speedway however KD a very competent businessman sank thousands into the spot before seeing the light and bailing out and of course we all know what has happened to LM and the position she now finds herself in with regards to losing her businesses and the club she loved dearly. Also this isn't a new phenomena to the Comets as previous owners of the club Eddie Thornborrow and Ron Bagley went through similar pain in the early 80's though not dissimilar it was finances that were the main influence in folding the club. However this is all water under the bridge and everyone (including Jenga) has a view on what the real reason was then as to why the spot folded. So you may only have some of the truth as to what has gone on and some sensible suggestions on here that are very near to the truth (and some a mile off) but I doubt you will get all of the real reasons, however it is hurting everyone who is/was passionate about their speedway in West Cumbria and those loyal fans who followed the team through thick and thin up and down the country let alone home meetings. The Supporters Trust and the Friends of Workington Speedway who in two seasons sank over £20k into the club setting up direct debits and paying in additional cash all to no avail; these people need answers for sure and no doubt if it ever came back these supporters again would be at the forefront of supporting the club. However I doubt it will ever come back now and I am normally a "pot half full" type of guy but in this case the pot is definitely half empty. Regards THJ Oh!!! got called away from me desk and see you have been at it again so I will stick this one on here as well to respond to. (have you retired; are you on holiday or do you just have time on your hands?) It would be nice to hear the "Clarion Call" and have something positive to look forward to but where will that come from? who will put up the cash or take the risk to run a business that has seen off Keith Denham and Laura Morgan in recent times and has (as pointed out above) a history of being a major financial risk and a gamble business wise over the years. As you state "Something along the lines of this would be nice and something we could all get behind": 'Due to the fact that the Workington Comets have had to be displaced from their home at Derwent Park in order to facilitate construction of the new Community Stadium the Council is giving the club its full backing in developing a new home on the site of the training track at Northside. (They weren't displaced? the club run out of money and folded before the ground issues started? if they came back they would now not have a viable home granted; so I would suggest this request is made to the council as you have directed it toward them and see what they say as it is not in any promotions gift to give to the fans) Such a move would reduce the costs of running the sport whilst allowing the club to directly benefit from income generated through food and drink sales. (Why should/would the council be concerned with this (making a private individual money?) and I would suggest it would be a hard sell as the speedway in general does not generate a vast amount of jobs in the community or support any cause that the council can get behind for them (the council) to garner any kudos from the process) There will be great opportunity for local businesses to get involved in the creation of this exciting new facility which see the continuation of what is a great family sport that has been embedded in local sporting heritage and culture over the last 50 years'. (what benefit is there at present to any local business, we (my company) have supported Speedway for the last 10 years and not one job has been earned from this advertising, not one new client has banged on our door saying here is a contract mate as you support the Speedway; and we are not alone in this as speaking to Alan Hedley of Sapphire Engineering a few years back with regards to business opportunity and speedway advertising he said that even as a main sponsor of a club he had not reaped one benefit business wise in all the years he sponsored the Diamonds; not one return for all that investment; again another sensible businessman with no axe to grind being honest) What the Comets needs first is a Promoter before there is any shouting about where a track can go, then the promoter will need to know what support the council will give him/her. Then a rational business decision will be made as to whether it is viable for the club to run, but again the big issue is support as 450 fans paying on average £15;00 per meeting does not pay for a championship team without secondary income, so where is all this money coming from? sponsorship? because again and what seems only prevalent in speedway is businesses would rather give money to the riders than the club! its crazy as surely no club; no riders! or am I missing something here? maybe the sponsors should pay the riders and save the clubs money that way! Look at what is successful in the Championship; Glasgow Model: Joking apart we know how they survive; they are losing money hand over fist however they have the support of a very successful company (and family) who back (financially) the Tigers along with some very generous sponsorship, it isn't a problem and it is working for them at present and long may it last, however if this support was racked back then things could be different. Scunthorpe Model: Rob Godfrey has a great set up at Scunny but he will be the first to tell you Speedway costs him money but it is what he loves, Rob owns and runs his venue and has other revenue streams which subsidise the Speedway and Rob runs a tight ship financially and I believe this is the way to go but it is difficult; Redcar and the motor park set up would fit at Northside however Redcar have not been without their own financial problems; and not looking for an argument from any of the clubs mentioned but the woes of speedway in general have been well debated on here with some very pragmatic and sensible arguments (by the likes of mikebv; halifaxtiger; bruv and others) and have been well put and debated to the "nth degree" but will they ever influence the "Powers that be"? I very much doubt it I hope I am wrong but I think it will be difficult for the sport to return to West Cumbria not withstanding the following 1. A Promoter willing to invest and run it as a business (a hobby or a charity) 2. A Promoter with the financial clout to front up all the costs required to join the BSPA 3. Support from the Council (land; infrastructure and financially) 4. A venue to run the sport from! as the DP option now I feel is dead 5. Other revenue streams (Scunny Model at a Motor Park type venue) 6. A fan base that at least exceeds 750 people paying on average £15:00 7. A viable business plan 8. BSPA support (or 9. A mug like me to win the Euro Lottery) I have just scratched the surface here and look forward to being picked apart by all and sundry but I think you had your response from the council with regard to the stadium some time back pre local elections; however what they have said and what they have done have been a total contradiction. As Private James Frazer said on many an occasion "we're doomed! SS "we're doomed! Apologies in advance Regards THJ

excellent post spot on and unbiased 2hrs 30m was right not 3hrs as some people are quoting on here

What.... like me business has gone belly up an av run out of money.... if we could have run the football pitch wouldn't have been as wide as it is now.... we got well and truly shafted off someone who gave the impression they were going to come in with serious finances to help us out and like a mug I believed them... then the council... followed by the Rugby Club... then a provincial football team who think they will be playing in Europe by 2030!!! Think you have had all the answers your gonna get on here Biffa... could be the time that old adage comes into play and No News is Good News because no matter how much you polish a turd at the end of the day it's still what it is.... Regards THJ

MacDonald did show considerable progress last year, another similar one could make him a useful 2nd string.