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Shame if Ablitt will not ride again, he looked very good in those matches that I saw. But the Mulford boy looks even better. Spectacular in the extreme and was certainly the reason for Kent's win over Belle Vue IMO. I am told he is very good on Grass which brings to mind the bad news I head this morning that James Shanes has had a very bad Grass accident with some very serious injuries. Whatever our allegiances, everyone on this forum will wish him a full and speedy recovery.. That's for sure.

Odds when the Jigsaw says 8-10 years it means the age recommendation not length of time to complete

Let's face it, if it was really bad we would be up to 50 pages by now of people slating it. As it's reasonably quiet I think we all know the track was alright!!

24 hours between races is a lot different to 10 minutes.

What a load of twaddle,,, just look at the averages,,, Tungate is higher,,, He has a better average because he is worse,, doh.

Because he appealed even murderers can appeal you are a bit of a drama queen are we not.

Jason Doyle thanked us last night and said track was great.

Over a two legged affair i would be reasonably confident though Crazy.

He doesnt need more racing because the issue is in his head. He isn't going to ride himself out of it. Woffinden was right. Its mental and frankly dan needs to grow a pair of balls. He has started to ride within himself and is timid on the track. I can see it and so can a multi world champion. I appreciate he is coming back from big injuries but unfortunately this is a tough motorsport and the best way to recover is to attack it. I was slandered on here earlier in the season for daring to suggest he needed a crash that would test his body, it would cope and he would be back where he needs to be mentally. Hes always been fragile dan. From that first head injury up at Newcastle. Motorsport is a mans game and until he shakes this crash out of his psyche he is going to become a very average rider and that is what we are seeing right now. Cant gate. No track craft because he isn't in the right place mentally. What he needs is a psychologist to help him overcome it, not more rides. May be an unpopular opinion but that is the way I see it.

Talking in general Rob.. Too much of a comfort zone for these lads is built by having the option to drop down.. Dan has left the second tier behind (or at least he should have), but no doubt next year his average will once again allow him to drop back down again and make him a desirable rider for some lower order team.. Woffy did it right by getting out, no point being a big fish in a tiny pond as that isn't a truly reflection of where you are in the bigger picture, therefore these lads need to face proper pressure every week rather than riding in front of 1000 or so with no one too bothered who wins... Riding under real pressure from fans and owners can only focus the mind more acutely.. I think some lads get far too much praise, far too early, without actually doing anything but beating mediocre domestic rivals, which can give a far too highly inflated reputation... After four or five seasons of racing I would suggest you are not too far away from where your true level is so if your still doubling up, your probably not going to make it to the top level as you really should have moved on..

I blame the wife . She was moaning that she wanted to go out, telling me to hurry up..

Dear lord! Anything and everything happens in the playoffs. Def not as predictable as you're making out!

Loads at Sheffield on Sunday; as usual. One guy on the apex of the 3rd and 4th bends, who looks like he has a penchant towards home made meat and potato pies (yum) went the full length f the centre green to assist in repairing the air fence on bend 2 after Rasmus Jensen hit it. Once sorted the riders were put on 2 minutes for the rerum as he was tidying up, but he still legged it back across one of the biggest centre greens in British speedway to be in position before tapes up. And was raking as soon as the riders had left the track after that and each heat. Well done that man. Excellent commitment to the cause.

Best decision maker was the Office manager Angela Price who is no longer at BSPA.

He hinted at a return to British Speedway - I don’t recall him hinting at Poole. He did also say it was dependent on a visa which he hasn’t looked into. I’m not sure he would be eligible to get a visa currently either.

Doyley would have not have been riding flat out to pass Klindt if the track was bad. Bumpy in places yes but definitely not a boring meeting at all. I thought it was a good watch and I love a good Poole bash as much as the next person!

Christ I'd never resign myself to closure, why don't they talk to the current management and see what the plan is?

Cooks appeal will not be until at least November, Buster will not allow it. If guilty he will be banned for two weeks over Christmas.

Would she come in on a 3 or 2 average?

Be careful, or you may have to go away too!

Newman had three rides. He had to come out in heat 14. He was swapped out in heat 8.

Yeah Penky still going strong and hopefully for a while yet, can change a game with his tactical skills. All my teenage/adult life I've been a visitor to Derwent Park...both for Worky Town RL and the wonderful Comets. It is still heartbreaking to not have speedway there anymore, and seeing the track disappear is awful. But I know many Town RL folk and it is they who say something might be stirring speedway style in the vicinity.......can't say more but????

Change your name to Oval Fundin.

So far down? If he came back only Doyle would be above him. He still scored well for Toruń this year and though past his best would still be a top man here.

He will be at Scunthorpe

Klindt has never been a track specialist despite spending years there. Wells ditto . Scored 6 last time with Belle Vue. Very up and down when visited since left. Not one track specialist in the Poole line up but they have all had good meetings there and bad ones.

Looks a big ask for the Warriors but thought that for Kent last night and they got the win. The battle of the two big track teams will see a very powerful top 5 for the Colts but a tail that could keep the contest interesting with Sealey blowing very hot and cold and Bailey well below par last night. That said a returning Verge, Campos & Wirtzfeld both patchy will likely seal it for the visitor despite likely big scores from King and Widman.

I didn`t know we are in the USA where the away team is listed 1st !!!!!!

Obviously speedway is not your sport to follow find something more sedate like football

Most thoroughly enjoyed last nights meeting. You are in the minority.

I would bet that Cooks hearing will take place once Lambert is back

Been banging that second point for years. RR is the durge of a good meeting. Allow it for emergencies but the rest its guests to allow experience. Definitely don't agree with cutting the length of a match though, spectators want more value for money not less.

Yes, if you come along the A61 from that way, you'll see Hillsborough on your right about half a mile before Owlerton on the left. I had to laugh when you said you were long suffering supporting the Baggies... this time 3 years ago, the Blades were bottom of League One with 1 point... if someone had said then that we'd be in the Prem now, I think I would have recommended they be sectioned Most people are given the right to appeal - if he was banned during an appeal and subsequently found to be innocent/not guilty, he could put in all manner of claims for loss of earnings etc. etc.

Jack smith seemed ok after meeting talking to presenter. Yes we av givin up on our team. Last few matches maybe forever

He's not right. Newman only had 3 rides. Perks replaced him in heat 8 and also scored 0.

Its like talking to a 5 year old.. i don't hate Auty i just think he's a very average rider. You tried to argue he isn't because he is good at Scunthorpe which is stupid. I pointed out there are a lot of very average riders who were good at one track doesn't mean they are good riders. Then you start spouting rubbish about home track advantage etc!! No wonder you are the forum clown who no one listens to

Perks will no doubt score at home. He's a trier

I have said before when Belle Vue were top they were in a vunerable position not many agreed with me at the time but just feel there are 4 stronger teams so the play offs could be tricky.

It’s not fixed, it’s better. Bad ruts and wavey still but at least the boys can race it harder. Tons better tho.

Is that what he said? NO!!! He said that the sport "is littered with pretty poor riders who were good at one track". That doesn't mean "all" riders, and that doesn't mean they were "crap". You really don't help yourself by constantly accusing others of saying things they didn't...

Why are you not sure if they will be on?

Not you clearly.

Probably the only chance of the championship trophy heading north east bound !! But at least the GEMS won the NJL.. well done Redcar

We communicated for quite a few years in the run up to his books being published, not least because I had some information he was interested in. He was perfectly fine until one day out of the blue I got an abrupt and rude message basically cutting off communication (although a year or so later made a conciliatory approach). I've no idea what I did, but it's pretty clear he did this to plenty of people so I don't lose sleep about it. Undoubtedly a great promoter, great thinker and good writer too, and knowing what I know now, someone probably someone who carried a significant amount of worry. But I don't buy into the hagiography.

I recall eavesdropping on a discussion between John and a group of Oxford fans at Cowley and he seemed to be quite happy engaging with them and they all shook hands when they went their seperate ways.

He actually co-promoted at Cowley (1990) during the last years of Northern Sports if I recall although that period was obviously after the supposed new 'directive' under discussion. I remember that he and John Berry were to be the 'dream team' with Peter on the commercial side of operations until John resigned and Peter wss left to fight his corner which proved unviable in the end due to the usual indecison of the BSPA (and split between the two leagues at the time) which, apparently, continues to this day.

Couldn’t the Leicester promotion just bring over some supporters from their other team, Sheffield, to boost the crowds?

BUT they are on the shelves at Tesco, Sainsbury, Asda, etc. Had we continued to pay WH Smith their 'ransom' money we might not be anywhere! There will be changes to the manner in which subs copies are sent in October. Ayres will feature in the future. Thanks for your final comments.

Am I really understanding this. Somerset have dropped a division. They no longer have one of the very best in the world riding for them. And they have put the prices UP! Absolutely staggering ineptitude.