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Once upon a time the bottom half of the series automatically went into the challenge. As others have said if you exclude GP riders you risk weakening the field for the series. I too would like to see some fresh faces in the GPs but if they can’t beat the old guard in the qualifying events then perhaps they aren’t ready or good enough to get there.

I don't think there is anything wrong with the sgp qualifying system. Just because Zagar and NKI aren't winning SGPs they are in my opinion still in the top 16 in the world.

You're spot on.. point is, even at this stage of their careers, both Zagar and Iversen are capable of winning a GP.

You're totally right, what a nonsense speedway is. It should be like football where the top 8 sides in the World Cup are seeded to the next event.. All the others aren't allowed to qualify as they had their chance. Speedway fans... I despair at times.

Craig's adventure to qualify for the GPs is over. I wonder how much his injury has affected him plus the Eastbourne stushie. However he did win one race beating Vaculik, Fricke and Pavlic. He also beat Iversen, Lambert and Bellego. Some good scalps seeing as Iversen and Fricke both qualified. On the other hand he must have got the set up wrong in his first race as he finished last with Chris Harris even beating him for 3rd. So a good effort from our captain.

Whoever is in the series it's almost certain there will be 2/3/4 riders who are adrift over the course of the season and don't really look like having a chance of winning a GP. I agree that it would be nice to see some new faces but if the likes of Zagar and Iversen qualify then they deserve to be there. Would be different if they were being given a wildcard year after year but if they are proving themselves as the best of the rest in these meetings then fair enough.

By the same token,Should Bjerre ,Harris and Cook be allowed to enter again they have been there before and would add nothing to the GPS if they qualify.Imo everybody has the right to try and qualify again and if the do fair play to them

So you dont want the top 16 riders in the GPs then?

Most of the stadiums that also have Stock Car racing already have the loops under the track for the transponders with each formula having strick rules where the transponder must be mounted. As an example F2 Stock Car results from Mildenhall last night are on the Speedhive siteso you can see exactly who passed who and when in each race. Each driver has their own transponder and is responsible for ensuring it is working. I am sure Speedway riders could easily do exactly the same.

No thanks and have you seen his poor scores in Sweden this year.

As we have said, the old World Final system was never designed to showcase the best 16 riders in the world; the GP system is. There will always be the odd exception, but you can't argue with what we have. Who cares how old someone is, or how boring you may think his style is? If he earns the right to compete, then good luck to him! Iversen and Zagar both continually prove that they are good enough to be in the GP series...

The Latvian link is working so far. http://spedway.ucoz.lv/

The top 4 in the GP challenge were the 4 riders who are currently in the GP's (yes i know Fricke was a reserve) seems to show nobody is yet ready to step up

If every sport needed to be profit making in order to continue existing then there would little to no sport about now and that includes the Worlds most popular sport - football! - Look at the current plight of 3rd tier clubs Bolton Wanderers and Bury as well as one of the biggest football clubs on the planet Manchester Uniteds ongoing debt. Indeed without many modern day football stadiums being multi use venues, football would be even more unviable! The universally more acceptable athletics has never been profitable! I do feel that certain things should go above profit making and money for the best interests of society. Stadiums should be included in this. Iconic speedway stadiums like Belle Vue, Exeter, Norwich, Southampton, Wimbledon, West Ham, the old Leicester, Coventry, Cradley, Oxford and probably quite a few others should have been listed and prevented from being turned into housing estates. Had indeed been the case then the sport today would undoubtedly be in a better shape. Football gets afforded this allowance cause of its popularity and local communities all over benefit from it. and Like I've said before on here, Odsal could be staging football, speedway and stock cars if ways could be found to make the venue more multi use?

What I struggle to understand is why people complain about the current format, qualifying system etc. Because quite simply if it comes to 4 riders on a track accumulating points the best will always be at the top. There’s been many different scoring systems in the GPs since 1995 and to my knowledge it’s yet to make someone who wasn’t the best riders be at the top of the score charts come the end of the season. As for the qualifying I’m not sure how anyone can complain. Everyone is given a equal opportunity to qualify. Sometimes it throws a few surprises. Last night the top 4 were no real shock but that is sport and whether you like them or not they are the riders who earned it by right. The last 2 GPS have been two of the best there’s ever been so the personnel is fine. The main issue right now is staging GPs in venues worthy of such a competition.

Ostrow v Gniezno https://supersportowo.com/stream9.html appears to be working Rybnik v Tarnow https://supersportowo.com/stream11.html possibly

That’s all pretty spot on

Cant believe the thought process on here of some people Iversen and Zagar on their day capable of winning a gp They got through on merit. Aspgren would have made it maybe but for engine failure. If he had he would have deserved it, but would he have been better in the series then Zagar or Iversen? Doubtful Smolinski as well was close and Loktaev........would they enhance it? Unlikely At the end of the day the other riders had every chance and were not good enough its simple really Seem to remember the clamour for Lindgren to be dropped out a few years back and look at him now Wasnt long ago people wanted Milik and Lebedevs.......how they have seen their careers go in decline

Would normally wish for Poole to get a good hiding but in the context of Play Off qualification an away win would be ideal.

He brought the house down when beating Briggo??? Stan is what speedway was all about a great team man.

Only Robert knows how fit, or otherwise he is. However looking at his scores last night he ended the meeting with a win. Many people seem to think riders, after a long lay off can throw their leg back over a bike and just pick up where they left off. It’s takes a few races/meetings to get back to where you were. Only have to look at Wuffy. Long lay off and just finding his way back. Lets give Robert the time and space he needs to ride himself back to full match fitness. To be honest, if he rides Monday then I’m not expecting to much from him.

I'll be travelling to this. I have full belief in the Panthers to win this, and string a run of results together, to make the top 4.

The two go hand in hand, don't they?

Yeah. We need this bad.. I hope Lambo is fit enough. Mind you I don't think you will get a safer track than BV's wide open spaces and smooth track, to come back on. I won't be greedy. I'd settle for 44-46 and just 3 points

Well to be honest not this one, maybe the older bikes, just. I'm an away fan so the rest isn't for me. Like I said it should be good for the kids if they want their chops painted.

Well whenever they are dont have to be in order, they'll only worry about upsetting the polish league anyhow lol

someone who spends all day raving about his latest know it all stupid idea on facebook , and constantly coming up with conspircarcies against the BSPA and individiual promoters . absolute nutcase

Most likely no club wanted to risk that Bank Holiday crowd dwindling by hosting a TV meeting.....

You would get the complete details on sportowefakty for Polish speedway and speedway around the world

i think most of the players are semi-pro and have other jobs like our non-league.

I`m trying to get a promotion in Dick Barries`s supporters separation table, from fan to supporter then onto avid fan.

Fricke, Drabik.Smektala are all going to be GP riders.

and don@t forget the gov't forcing HMRC to give tax discounts . just like wembley .all the non football taxpayers pay more for football than it's supporters ever will ..

Can't disagree with much of that. Perhaps I am being too harsh, for the reasons you state, and Iversen is quite decent to watch. It'd just be nice to have some fresh blood to see what someone else can do. At least we have Fricke...

You could have the very best 16 riders in the world... way, way ahead of anyone else. One of them will still come last.

Okay.... 3/4 of Berwick

Certainly going to be an excellent meeting. Not one to be missed. It's going to be a lovely day tomo and if you love your speedway theres going to be no better way to spend your bank holiday

Every team has it's share of idiot fans. There were only one or two fans making those comments and they were quickly put right by others. Congratulations to Max on qualifying. It's a shame that meetings like this are not held on tracks that give riders better opportunities to race.

Perhaps if a member of the BBSC shared George's table on racenight they could impart all the information needed to purchase a number. I have been a Season Ticket/Passcard holder for 10 years & I don't know any of them personally.

Some of the senior riders refused to race at one of the first league matches ,because they had issues with fence ect. and the Pole Fed did not put them forward for challenge.

Why do you think that having a second GP in Great Britain would have such a bad effect on the crowd at Cardiff? It would not be the British Final it would still be the British GP. Having a second GP would have an effect on the crowd but I don't think it would be by as much as you suggest.

And went on a mystery tour twice,on the way home on Wednesday.

The only Pole that I can think of that isn't in the series but can definitely be considered as in the top 16 in the World just now is Piotr Pawlicki. Unfortunately the PZM appeared to decided to punish the better riders, like Piotr, for standing up for rider safety earlier in the year, so he didn't get a chance in the qualifiers. Drabik is probably close to that level as well, but not quite there yet. He also missed out because of the PZM decisions this year. I've never been convinced that it's a good idea to hold a 1 off meeting to select qualifiers for the GP series, and holding them at rarely used venues that allow for very little racing is definitely a poor choice, so I agree with you there. However, I think you might be getting a bit confused about the venue for next weeks GP. At 314m, I think it's a bit of a stretch to call it a long track, and it definitely holds a few speedway meetings every year.

This conversation has been had on here multiple times already. In short, its can hold 10,000 the same or bigger then several GP current venues, it wouldn't replace Cardiff, it would be in addition to Cardiff.

I totally agree. It seems a nonsense that those performing poorly in the GP can do so with the comfort of knowing that the back door is still ajar. No rider in the GP should be allowed in the GP challenge and should only be allowed in the following year if they cannot qualify on merit in the then current GP campaign. No wonder the sport is not taken seriously.

Euro pairs?! Wtf seriously??? So that's Troy Ellis and reserves covering

A tad late in my reply but many thanks to Rob C for the recommendation of somewhere to eat by the track --- we had a lovely carvery meal. As for the Belle Vue track -- WOW and double WOW!! What a fantastic venue providing great racing and entertainment (including the handbags!!). I'm so envious of all you Belle Vue supporters that you have such a great track. I so miss my racing at Brandon and I was reminded of this when attending your great venue. Dare I say this would be an ideal track for a future G.P ?

That's true.. The refs scores correlated with mine, so not sure how the BSPA site have it wrong.. We had, Worrall 9+3 (6), Ostergaard 11+1 (5), Bjerre 5+1 (4), Wethers 4 (4), TJ 5, Clegg 3+1 (4), Phillips 1 (3)...